Re: Jim Gray article on Next Generation Databases
Peter Hunsberger wrote: >On 5/4/05, Jonathan Robie <jonathan.robie@d...> wrote: > > > >>Perhaps I'm reading too much into this, but in Gray's article, the >>vision does not seem to include a middle tier. The database becomes the >>center of the universe, and pretty much everything we associate with the >>middle tier becomes part of the database. The database also takes on >>some of the functionality traditionally associated with an operating system. >> >>How likely is this? Do users want that level of centralization? >> >> > >I don't think such a beast is necessarily centralized, it's just >highly integrated. I doubt that the users (whomever they may be) >understand what they are asking for in direct terms. But as the >article and this thread points out, the market seems to be building >this whether the users want it or not. Oracles vision of the DB as an >OS is well known. MS is adding some form of DB into the middle of its >next OS (some time real soon now, well maybe sort of). IBM continues >to integrate everything into one massive WebSphere/DB2 conglomerate. > > back to the future - os/400 (system 36/38), and mumps, and the apple lisa, and the prime thing as well...... to mention a couple of approaches to this problem. >Does all that mean no middle layer? My guess is, not as we know it >today: you've got a general purpose data manager and a "client" and a >general purpose network. The only value add a separate and distinct >middle layer can add is transformation. (I'm assuming reliable >delivery etc. is now part of the "network"). This sort of suggests >that the middle layer as we often think about it today (transaction >management) is actually an orthogonal concern to the DB/client >relationship; no one building applications should be worrying about it >in the long term. > >If all this is true, one interesting result is that one can expect the >companies building "Enterprise Service Buses" to be acquired and >disappear... Oh, and XSLT, or it it's next incarnation, will be even >more valuable than ever ;-) > > >
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