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Re: XML friendly runtime templating languages

• To: "Robert Koberg" <rob@k...>, "XML Developers List" <xml-dev@l...>
• Subject: Re: XML friendly runtime templating languages
• From: "Nathan Young" <natyoung@c...>
• Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:25:13 -0800
• In-reply-to: <4248B15C.8050204@k...>
• Organization: Cisco Systems
• References: <4248B15C.8050204@k...>
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Hi.

You didn't say why you eliminated JSP from your list.  I've heard that  
some of the newer taglib technologies provide pretty good XML hooks.

I just about died when a group where I work wanted us to write DVSL  
templates:

http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/dvsl/users-guide.html

----------->Nathan

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:37:32 -0800, Robert Koberg <rob@k...> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I recently did an app that pre-generated out to Jakarta Velocity  
> templates. I chose Velocity because I thought it was the most XML  
> friendly (and I have a java bias). I posted a minor annoyance about  
> still having to do some redundant coding for SGML attribute minimazation  
> brought into XML:
>
> #set ($isChecked = $page.getBoolean("isChecked"))
> #if ($isChecked)
>    <input ... checked="checked"/>
> #else
>    <input .../>
> #end
>
> I can't write something like:
>
> <input ... #if($isChecked)checked="checked"#end/>
>
> becuase the template code must exist in a well formed XML document to be  
> used in an XSL transformation.
>
> Andrew Clover clued me in to PXTL where (from the PXTL spec):
>
> "If it is a conditional element, it is checked for success. If  
> unsuccessful, the element is removed with all its child nodes. If  
> successful, the element is replaced by its children."
>
> Andrew responded to my post with:
>
> "Well that's a failing of the templating language rather than XHTML as  
> such. A templating language that aims at being helpful for XML should  
> provide a mechanism for inclusion/exclusion of an attribute.
>
> For example in PXTL:
>
>    <input type="radio" checked="checked{?px_if isChecked?}"/>
>
> *I was wondering if there are other runtime templating languages out  
> there that I am missing.* I am not including XSLT for runtime processing  
> because of its need to parse the XML source for each transformation.
>
> best,
> -Rob
>
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