Re: What Does SOAP/WS Do that A REST System Can't?
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 01:00:29 -0500 (EST), Rich Salz <rsalz@d...> wrote: > I didn't think I was arguing SOAP v REST. Tweaking some claims, > perhaps. :) > > > Yes, Digest does include the URI in the hash. > > The more correct synopsis would add "but Digest isn't practical" For your context in which you are working that may be true, and I accept that. > > Yes, SLL is tied to the IP address of the server being accessed. > > Here the text to add is "or an entity in 'front of' the server > terminating the SSL connection." > You have mentioned this before, but is there anything which stops you from using TLS/SSL on all the hops *after* the firewall? > > And POE does exactly that, if you miss the reply to your POST > > then do your POST again, if you get a 405 then you know that the > > first POST went through and you can do a GET on the > > same URI to get the response body. > > I don't think POE works without first doing a GET so that you > can get the POE-Links URL to tell you where to go if you're > POST doesn't get a response. That first GET is for the hypertext that contains the POE link, correct. That's part of the 'hypermedia as the engine of application state", but let's not go there :) > Nor does POE have a strong way > to prevent anyone else from getting the response, either. I understand that you have issues with the current authentication and encryption mechanisms for HTTP. What I don't understand is the underlying assumption that Basic and Digest are the end of the line for HTTP authentication. RFC 2617 not only defines Basic and Digest but puts in place a framework for adding new mechanisms. In fact, two such extensions have been proffered during the course of the Atom discussions, with the WSSE based mechanism being adopted by TypePad and, until recently, Blogger. Blogger has since switched to using Basic over SSL. -joe  http://bitworking.org/news/New_AtomAPI_Implementation_Release2  http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/12/17/dive.html -- Joe Gregorio http://bitworking.org
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