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• Subject: RE: Even if you're not ... was If you're going to the W3C meeting in March [T2005020200AU]
• From: "Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@b...>
• Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 18:23:00 -0500
• Cc: "Kurt Cagle" <kurt.cagle@g...>, "Frans Englich" <frans.englich@t...>, <xml-dev@l...>
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• Thread-topic: Even if you're not ... was If you're going to the W3C meeting in March [T2005020200AU]

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> Subject: Re:  Even if you're not ... was If you're 
> going to the W3C meeting in March [T2005020200AU]
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> On February 2 2005 at 11:25:18 EST Alan Gutierrez 
> <alan-xml-dev@e...> wrote:
> > * Peter Hunsberger <peter.hunsberger@g...> [2005-02-02 11:13]:
> > > On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:57:23 -0500, Alan Gutierrez 
> > > <alan-xml-dev@e...> wrote:
> > >
> > > <snip>on topic XSLT in Ant discussion</snip>
> >
> >     On? Good.
> >
> > > >  ~ Recently, I offered to provide build scripts for an XML open
> > > >    source project. When they heard that the process would be.
> > > >
> > > >        svn checkout http://foo.com/svn/foo
> > > >        cd foo
> > > >        ant -f mix.bootstrap.xml
> > > >        ant
> > > >
> > > >    They rejected it for the third line. And Ant script /should/
> > > >    just work from checkout.
> > > >
> > > >    But for any project of any real size, it doesn't.
> > > >
> > > >    Generally, the checkout includes an endoresed ant 
> and a pair of
> > > >    build.sh, build.bat files that set the system class path,
> > > >    because Ant classpath directives, for many tasks are 
> defeated by
> > > >    the $ANT_HOME/lib directory.
> > >
> > > Not sure I understand all your issues here, but isn't the 
> common way 
> > > of handling Ant script customization via proprieties 
> files that are 
> > > read in as the first step of the Ant script?  Our scripts have no 
> > > dependencies on environment variables but do define default 
> > > proprieties that can be overridden by user proprieties files.
> >
> >     No, the issues are class path issues.
> >
> >     To run Saxon 8 you need to alter the class path, or drop Saxon 8
> >     in $ANT_HOME/lib, just as you have to drop junit.jar in
> >     $ANT_HOME/lib to run JUnit tests.
> >
> >     A default Ant installation will go so far as to defeat JAXP's
> >     ability to load a user specified TranformerHandlerFactory.
> >
> >     You are so not going to get the Transformer you want.
> >
> >     Since these are CLASSPATH issues, the custom build.(bat|sh)
> >     scripts are necessary to set the CLASSPATH.
> >
> >     I've avoided them by hacking a copy  of XSLTProcess.
> >
> >     I put it, and it's minions, in a different package (i.e.
> >     package com.agtrz.mix.ant;), so the Ant ClassLoader won't load
> >     them at startup from $ANT_HOME/lib. So that they will load when
> >     called as part of a <taskdef/> with a <classpath/> specified
> >     that will point to Saxon 8.2, DOM 3.0, and JAXP 1.3.
> >
> >     Blah, blah, blah. It wasn't simple. Did my homework.
> >
> >     Definately not a *.properties versus env issue.
> >
> >     Thanks, though. :^)
> >
> > --
> > Alan Gutierrez - alan@e...
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