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Re: Even if you're not ... was If you're going to the W3Cmeeti

• To: Alan Gutierrez <alan-xml-dev@e...>
• Subject: Re: Even if you're not ... was If you're going to the W3Cmeeting in March
• From: Robert Koberg <rob@k...>
• Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 07:08:34 -0800
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Alan Gutierrez wrote:

> 
>     That last bit makes sense.
>     
>     What everyone is suggesting is either one template to rule them
>     all, or pipelineing, or a mixture of both.
> 
>     If I were to release Mix as open source, I'd bill it as a SoC
>     tool, that simply generates Ant files that are deviod of build
>     configuration logic, that only contain dependency resolution.
> 
>     Altough, I've found that even when I offer to do the work
>     myself, that people have deep reservations against a pure Ant
>     solution that is not, get this, Maven.

ugghh.

> 
>     In any case, open sourcing a configuration system, I don't know.
>     Do you really want to troubleshoot other people's builds?


No. I want to Open Source an Ant version of our CMS -- a poor mans CMS. 
It can be used as an exit strategy for our system, thereby not locking 
anyone into our system (I don't know any system that can do that). It 
can also be used by developers who don't want to use our browser based 
interface. These are selling point to me.

A user of this could run targets to:

- validate all (or some) of a projects XML configuration and content.
- use XSL to upgrade XML configuration and/or content to the latest 
version - or stick in any unique transforms they want to do
- use a configuration file that can be transformed into an ant build 
which can be run to generate a project (usually a website). According to 
the configuration, a page can be generated as XHTML, HTML, JSP, text, 
Atom/RSS, AvantGo, print friendly (X)HTML (though we prefer a CSS solution).
- validate the generated files to ensure that they are, well, valid.
- to generate and run JUnit/HttpUnit tests to ensure that files are 
found and no other errors, and that the is set up as expected. For 
generated webapps, Cactus test cases can be generated and run.
- to promote a project through a staging environment DEV -> [QA -> 
CERTIFIED -> ] LIVE. With Ant, this can be a simple copy making use of 
Selectors and/or Sync. Or to SCP/FTP versions to remote servers, but 
this has drawbacks with regard to syncing.

best,
-Rob


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