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• To: 'Kurt Cagle' <kurt.cagle@g...>
• Subject: RE: Even if you're not ... was If you're going to the W 3C meeting in March
• From: "Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <len.bullard@i...>
• Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:45:39 -0600
• Cc: David Megginson <david.megginson@g...>, XML Developers List <xml-dev@l...>

In a strict sense, XML is inferior but for the same reasons 
it is a compromise in all formats.  For the scene graphs, 
it is very verbose, the graphics guys are used to wringing 
every bit of performance a board can deliver, and the object 
model isn't very much like a DOM, so even if the DOM works 
in the editor, most object to it for real time. 

Otherwise, it is a fragmented market with most of the action 
in games where interoperability isn't a high priority, and 
generalized network protocols for real time interaction aren't 
that standard yet.  In other words, it's still early days for 
this medium even with all the work that's been done, and it 
is platform sensitive.

Yes, the forces of status quo are felt.  Each community is 
has a different market model, some have a history, some 
with each other, and so on and so on.  Yet more is happening 
in that domain this year than last year, and XML is the 
format of choice for the major contenders.  The action 
is growing.

len


From: Kurt Cagle [mailto:kurt.cagle@g...]

Len,

This does not surprise me in the least, sad to say. I've had a feeling
for several years that 3D would be the hardest nut to crack XML-wise
-- not because XML is inherently inferior for 3d work, but because
there was already such a strong invested interest group in maintaining
their status quo.

-- Kurt


On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:33:02 -0600, Bullard, Claude L (Len)
<len.bullard@i...> wrote:
> David is right.   The former VRML group, now X3D, is having
> a heckuva row over the XML-encoding in X3D.  A group of the
> VRMLers with content and/or implemented engines fight the
> XML encoding tooth and nail.  The majority of the new members
> come in with some XML background and a solid conviction that
> XML opens up 3D to more users and applications.  These don't
> tend to be the C++ programmers who are more likely to support
> the curly bracket camp.  On the other other hand, all of the
> new interchange syntaxes such as Collada are XML-based and
> the arguments there are NIH and the use of elements vs
> attributes (sorta myopic but there it is).
> 
> It is an interesting debate from a social perspective.
> 
> len

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