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Re: [offtopic] The Airplane Example (was Re: Streami

  • To: Benjamin Franz <snowhare@n...>
  • Subject: Re: [offtopic] The Airplane Example (was Re: Streaming XML)
  • From: Alan Gutierrez <alan-xml-dev@e...>
  • Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 08:06:47 -0500
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example of mockery
* Benjamin Franz <snowhare@n...> [2004-12-31 22:13]:
> On Fri, 31 Dec 2004, Benjamin Franz wrote:
> >
> >But assuming the the entire profession doesn't become non-existent, I see 
> >little doubt that licensing and legal requirements for the specific title 
> >of software engineer (or some similar title) will happen.
> To close this topic: Far from being prophetic, I am now speaking 
> _historically_. I had not noticed before, but in 1998 the State of Texas 
> added 'Software Engineer' to the list of legally licensed Engineering 
> specialities.

    So, what? Engineer in the software field is bandided about like
    the word Senior. If Microsoft can create a corp of enginneers
    (certified), than the title has lost meaning.
    What is this fetish for titles? 

  ~ Of course a proper engineering degree is worth something and
    necesary for certian positions.
    Yes, the software world has made a mockery of the term engineer,
    just as it has made a mockery of the word technology.
    Just as it is attempting to make a mockery of patent law.

    Is software science? Should it be taught as science?

  ~ You snipped the context of your quote:

    One final recommendation has to do with the title 'Software
    Engineer' If you call yourself a 'Software Engineer', then
    professional engineers feel you come under their auspices.  
    /Here is a definition of a software engineer that I got from the

    An uncredited definition that the author got from The Internet.
    The author does in writing his article as engineers do when they
    write software. We are now the thousand monkies at a thousand typewriters.

> <URL:http://www.aitp.org/newsletter/2003julaug/article16.htm>

>    While a programmer creates the codes that make a program run, a
>    software engineer creates the designs the programmer implements.


    Well, better get back to creating my codes. Please don't tell
    anyone in Texas, but I took the liberty designing them myself.

Alan Gutierrez - alan@e...


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