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RE: XML-aware programming language?

  • To: "Daniela Florescu" <dflorescu@m...>,"Michael Champion" <michaelc.champion@g...>
  • Subject: RE: XML-aware programming language?
  • From: "Dare Obasanjo" <dareo@m...>
  • Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 23:57:22 -0800
  • Cc: <xml-dev@l...>
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  • Thread-topic: XML-aware programming language?

xml aware
Exactly, that's why as a programmer I'd rather stick with the language I'm doing most of the application development with anyway (i.e. C#, Javascript, etc) as opposed to dealing with the [familiar] complexity of that language plus all the idiosyncracies of XQuery & XML Schema as well. 
There is nothing more satisfying that having someone take a shot at you, and miss. 


From: Daniela Florescu [mailto:dflorescu@m...]
Sent: Wed 12/1/2004 11:01 PM
To: Michael Champion
Cc: xml-dev@l...
Subject: Re:  XML-aware programming language? 

As a programmer, I do not believe  in that.
XML Schema and XQuery are THAT big, and my brain is only THAT small.
I cannot mentally handle BOTH C# and XML data models in the same
time; two different kinds of strings, gazzilions of different kinds of
all similar but DIFFERENT. My brain isn't big enough for that (and I
don't see
why it should be...)

But you are right: there are many people that want to see XML natively
supported in programming languages. It's the most natural thing, for me

> Anyway, I certainly agree that this is not at all a silly topic.

Here are the main reasons why I believe that a new programming language
that natively
manipulates XML and it specially designed for Web Services will

1) building Web Services today is a big pain. Unless we find a easier
way to build them,
they'll never catch on in large scale.

2) XML itself didn't catch on large scale yet either (see Jonathan's
question about why young
guys don't get excited by XML). My explanation to that is: because we
cannot DO anything
with it. Granted, we can query and transform using XSLT or XQuery, but
you have to admit
that you need a weird sense of humor to have fun querying and
transforming. Programmers
have fun programming. Or today, we cannot program with XML. Hence, no
fun for most
programmers with XML....only pain.

The day when programmers will start having fun programming with XML,
XML will really

>  It
> would be interesting to hear from the other side ...

Well, no answer yet..... :-)

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