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RE: Ted Nelson's "XML is Evil"

• To: "Jonathan Robie" <jonathan.robie@d...>
• Subject: RE: Ted Nelson's "XML is Evil"
• From: "Hunsberger, Peter" <Peter.Hunsberger@S...>
• Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:43:25 -0500
• Cc: "Michael Kay" <michael.h.kay@n...>,"Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <len.bullard@i...>,"Eric van der Vlist" <vdv@d...>, <xml-dev@l...>
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• Thread-topic: Ted Nelson's "XML is Evil"

Jonathan Robie <jonathan.robie@d...> writes:
> 
> Hunsberger, Peter wrote:
> 
> > Archive isn't an isolated capability.  Archive implies 
> capability for 
> > usage.  Usage implies a mix of concerns. Does placing a inscribed 
> > stone tablet in a air tight iron box meet the requirements 
> of archive 
> > if no one knows how to interpret the inscriptions on the 
> stone tablet 
> > at any point in time?
> 
> Well, it worked great for the Rosetta Stone. 

Umm, you missed the point: at several points in time (presumably) the
inscriptions on the Rosetta Stone could be interpreted.  But I suspect
the point's too subtle....

> Give people a bunch of 
> labels, and they can often figure it out - even in languages 
> they don't 
> know, given enough time.
> 
> I think the topic at hand is inline markup. How could omitting the 
> markup make it easier to understand the meaning and structure of the 
> contents of a file?

That's a good topic, but I think just part of the thread.  Personally, I
was (at least at some point (no pun intended)) attacking the question of
when to use XML. For me, even when addressing the question of archive, I
see more value in XML as an interchange format than I do in a archive
format.  Not to say it's a bad archive format, just to say that I don't
see why it stands the test of long term usability necessarily better
than any other format.  XML parsers may be just a curious artifact of
the past in 20 years...

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