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Re: Validation vs performance - was Re: Fasttext out

expat vs sax
On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 12:45, Stephen D. Williams wrote:
> David Megginson wrote:
> > Stephen D. Williams wrote:
> >
> >> Processing overhead, including the major components of parsing / 
> >> object creation / data copies / serialization, is not a 'future 
> >> problem'.  It has always been a problem.
> >
> > We don't know how much and what kind of a problem XML will be until we've
> > had time to gain experience -- if we try to optimize too early, we'll 
> > end up
> > optimizing the wrong thing.
> I suppose "early" and "time to gain experience" are relative.
> > For example, I set up a test for a customer a while back to see how fast
> > Expat could parse documents.  On my 900 MHz Dell notebook, with 256MB RAM
> > and Gnome, Mozilla, and XEmacs competing for memory and CPU, Expat could
> > parse about 3,000 1K XML documents per second (if memory does not fail 
> > me).
> >  If I had tried to, say, build DOM trees from that, I expect that the 
> > number
> > would have fallen into the double digits (in C++) or worse.  In this 
> > case,
> > obviously, there would be far more to be gained from optimizing the 
> > code on
> > the other side of the parser (say, by implementing a reusable object 
> > pool or
> > lazy tree building) than there would be from replacing XML with something
> > that parsed faster.
> Why make the assumption that "optimizing the code on the other side of 
> the parser" is the first or only step?  I posit that this is not the 
> best way to proceed and artificially narrows possible solutions.  The 
> steps needed to parse XML, such as processing Expat events, cause a 
> minimum amount of work.  When that data has been parsed, it must be in a 
> usable form and data in a usable form must be serialized at some point.

that's a big claim. and i don't agree even a little bit.



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