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[XML-DEV Mailing List Archive Home] [By Thread] [By Date] [Recent Entries] [Reply To This Message] WAY OFFTOPIC: ( RE: ISO and the Standards Golden Hammer (was
 You asked. In deference to Tim, this really is raving. Busy people hit delete now. I don't accept both. I acknowledge both. I'm hoping for better because I'm expecting worse. They say worse is better. We choose our karma by dharma or kama, but we choose. To only be ronin, one fights for one's lord. That I have done. To be samurai, one fights for the way and the land. A 'just business' attitude takes the samurai and makes him yaguska. When the lord no longer enables the way, it is corrupted, thus corrupting the heart, thus corrupting the land. When I first saw the draft for ISO 8879, it struck me that this was better than OOP because OOP would never scale and it would never be fully interoperable but it sure was technically attractive. SGML was rough reading and hard to understand. That was the technical call. But when I met Goldfarb and the people that were working with him on markup, I was impressed with their commitment to protecting the information from the host system, and making sure it could outlive it. Although I could not be their technical equal, I could fight for them. That was the call of my heart. To this day, I believe strongly that the world owes those people an incalculable debt, not just for markup, but for setting an immaculate example of passionate commitment to doing the right thing the right way. Cut the corners. Get the cool stuff out there. Then hold on to your pocketbook when a group decides it's time to play "Revenge of the Crimson Assurance" with your product because the IP wasn't worth protecting. I don't know how to fix inequities in the market, but I have to find a way to protect customers from them. Any of us in caveat vendor markets do. It's called, indemnity. Somewhere between going fast enough to make the biggest splash and moving deliberately to secure a future is the right way where better is good enough and worse is seen for what it is. All I can say for sure is that anyone designing software products today without understanding that the product must interoperate both within its local product suite and across its market competitor's products is not paying attention. What I want is a way to know if it does or not without having to find the guys who built it and ask. len From: Frank [mailto:frank@t...] Len, I just have to ask. Why do you find it ok for business folks to do any slimy thing short of armed robbery in search of making money, but morally reprehensible for techies to cut procedural corners in preparing specs for doing cool stuff. Lawsuits and bespoke statutes are 'just business', but you have a real attitude of outrage about 'rough consensus and running code'. I can see getting upset about both, or accepting both as 'mammal stuff' but just plain don't get the different outlooks on the two. Most sincerely, Frank 
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