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Re: SAX/Java Proposed Changes

• To: David Megginson <dmeggin@a...>
• Subject: Re: SAX/Java Proposed Changes
• From: Elliotte Rusty Harold <elharo@m...>
• Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 13:47:18 -0500
• Cc: XML Developers List <xml-dev@l...>,SAX Developers' List <sax-devel@l...>
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At 12:49 PM -0500 3/5/04, David Megginson wrote:

>Still, this change would make some existing major parsers that are currently
>conformant suddenly non-conformant, and I'm not comfortable doing that
>lightly, for what is mainly a bookkeeping and cleanup release.  If all of
>the new properties and features are optional, I don't think that there's
>anything else in the list that would break existing parsers.

I don't think this is a change. I think this is what the specs say 
now, and I think those parsers are today non-conformant. This would 
make it more obvious to parser vendors that they have a problem and 
that they need to call endDocument. Right now they're living in 
denial.

However, before making this change we should probably ask the 
relevant Xerces and Oracle developers what they think. AS far as I 
can tell, these are the only two currently maintained SAX parsers for 
Java, and both have this problem. (At least Oracle 9 did. I haven't 
tested the just released Oracle 10 yet.)

If this is going to take too long for the Java 1.5 time frame, then 
we should probably punt for now, and not change the language on this 
at all. Wait for SAX 2.0.2 instead. I for one have a basket full of 
other issues like this that should be addressed at some point 
(including other issues related to exception handling) which I've 
been holding back so we could get the uncontroversial fixes out the 
door first.
-- 

   Elliotte Rusty Harold
   elharo@m...
   Effective XML (Addison-Wesley, 2003)
   http://www.cafeconleche.org/books/effectivexml
   http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D0321150406/ref%3Dnosim/cafeaulaitA

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