RE: Noise-free Complex Systems
It seems to circle back to the "If you depart from syntax as the means to ensure portability of data, XML makes no promises about its interoperability" position. A conservative and sane position, but it seems to get in the way of relentless innovation because it comes down to "If it hurts, don't do that!" I don't mean to be flip but the XML-Dev archives are littered with the uniform XML data model threads. Given transformation into an out of non-XML systems, he seems not to be asking for an XML solution, but for a universal data model that all consenting systems must agree to process uniformly and reliably. Perhaps I am overreading his email. I've not read the XML Fragment Interchange CR. Is this a likely and productive place to start to answer TimBL's request, or just what we have as a place to start? len From: 'Liam Quin' [mailto:liam@w...] On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 03:24:17PM -0600, Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote: > The question is, what does the infoset specification > provide that would answer or help create an answer > to the request for equivalence of any given XML set > under use by multiple systems? > > (I don't know how to put Timbl's "chunk" term more precisely > given namespaces.) Neither do I. The Information Set specification doesn't seem to me to help at all if you take things that are not in fact XML documents, and neither does the XML Specification itself. You can only really talk about a chunk of XML in terms of the containing XML document, in those documents. The XML Fragment Interchange (a candidate recommendation since 2001)  may be a starting point, but it needs two implementations to get out of CR and move towards bcoming a REC. Possibly that spec needs to be updated, as it predates the Infoset and xml:base for example, and maybe interest in it is finally building.
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