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RE: <DOCTYPE> definition in XML docs

  • To: 'john Mani' <john@s...>, xml-dev@l...
  • Subject: RE: <DOCTYPE> definition in XML docs
  • From: "Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <clbullar@i...>
  • Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:38:33 -0600

doctype loose
That's nuts.  They are making life hard/expensive by making 
it almost impossible to know which definition is 
authoritative for any given transaction, leading 
to versioning nightmares, traceability nightmares, 
and probable failures.  How would both ends keep 
up with each other's changes?  What kind of optimizations 
would one do with a DTD for this level of document 
anyway?  Are they intending to validate against 
your copy or their copy and how does anyone know?

Yikes!  Loose coupling or Noose coupling?  The 
reason for loose coupling is to reduce any and 
all negotiations required to enact a transaction. 
All they need to know is that the authoritative 
DTD was used to validate prior to sending and 
they definitely want to reduce the amount of 
time and effort spent keeping DTDs stored on 
separate sites in sync.  Otherwise ye Olde 
"control costs more than product" phenomenon 
takes over.

I'd be asking for clarification of the optimizations 
they are anticipating.

len


From: john Mani [mailto:john@s...]


Thanx, that's my thinking too.

This is their clarification:

----
The reason to have it in your (the vendor's) server was that
potentially you (a vendor) could made modifications (hopefully minor) to
the data type definition for some optimization reason, and when I send a
request I would "read" the most current version of the DTD doc.
----

They want to allow the users of their DTD to make 'minor'
changes, but this looks like opening up a Pandora's box that
their XML processor will have to deal with ..

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