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Re: Another mutated variant of the 'PowerPoint makesyoudumb'

• To: "Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@b...>,"Bullard Claude L (Len)" <clbullar@i...>
• Subject: Re: Another mutated variant of the 'PowerPoint makesyoudumb' story
• From: Jay Vaughan <jv@a...>
• Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 22:00:42 +0100
• Cc: "'bob@w...'" <bob@w...>, xml-dev@l...
• In-reply-to: <3FFC2EB1.96D3E198@b...>
• References: <15725CF6AFE2F34DB8A5B4770B7334EE03F9F0E2@h...><3FFC2EB1.96D3E198@b...>

you guys should talk about this on music-bar:

http://www.ampfea.org/mailman/listinfo/music-bar/

j.



At 11:07 -0500 7/1/2004, Chiusano Joseph wrote:
><Quote1>
>Music is programming and that is why it analogizes so well to computer
>geekery.
></Quote1>
>
>FWIW, I've been a musician since age 5 (variety of instruments, plus
>voice), and I found programming to be a very natural fit for me from the
>start.
>
><Quote2>
>Drummers and bass players are semi-sentient vegetables.  They don't
>program well. ;-)
></Quote2>
>
>I hope I'm an exception - I went through a jazz bass phase in late high
>school. :)
>
>Kind Regards,
>Joe Chiusano
>Booz | Allen | Hamilton
>Strategy and Technology Consultants to the World
>
>"Bullard, Claude L (Len)" wrote:
>  >
>  > Drummers and bass players are semi-sentient vegetables.  They
>  > don't program well. ;-)
>  >
>  > Music is programming and that is why it analogizes
>  > so well to computer geekery.   History teaches analytical
>  > skills for human contexts and that analogizes well to the
>  > kinds of analysis one does when creating production-worthy
>  > systems.  Lawyers know where the money is.  At the end
>  > of the day, programming isn't that hard to learn and law
>  > is.  One sees many 12 year old kids programming
>  > and few practicing law.
>  >
>  > Most of the spectacular failures of the computing
>  > industry involved designers so absorbed in the depths of
>  > set theory, turing machines, the perfect one pass
>  > parse, who can write the fastest algorithm, and so on
>  > that they forget that humans create, use and pay for
>  > the information.  The spectacular winning technologies
>  > make it easier for them to do that even if it costs the
>  > programmer some time in machine cycles or skateboarding.
>  >
>  > Powerpoint makes it easy to produce a decent looking
>  > presentation.  It can't make a dumb author smarter but
>  > it won't make a smart audience dumber.  It might bore
>  > them but not as much as bad phrasing and a whiny or
>  > monotone voice.
>  >
>  > XML makes life easier for programmers and harder for
>  > humans.  That is why it is a technology in search
>  > of a human audience.  It made the programmers feel
>  > smarter and the user interface feel dumber.
>  >
>  > len
>  >
>  > From: Bob Wyman [mailto:bob@w...]
>  >
>  > Claude L. Bullard wrote:
>  > > The best grounding, IMO, for programming if nothing
>  > > else is provided is symbolic logic.  Otherwise,
>  > > history and music.
>  >         I remember reading a research paper many years ago that
>  > discussed this subject. The curious thing was that they claimed that
>  > not all music was a good background for programming. The claim was
>  > that people that played woodwinds and strings ended up being better at
>  > coding then others. Percussionists were at the bottom of the list as
>  > well as some of the brass instruments (including Tuba -- which was my
>  > instrument...) An attempt was made in the paper to explain the
>  > difference. The best explanation they could come up with was based on
>  > the idea that the woodwinds, etc. had to deal with shorter notes and
>  > thus had to have a deeper appreciation of the pattern, system or
>  > complexity of the music than those who played instruments which
>  > focused on longer notes. This paper was a long time ago, so don't ask
>  > me for more details...
>  >
>  >         Something that I've noticed over the years is that the
>  > programming business has a lot of ex-lawyers in it. Many of the ones
>  > that I've worked with have been among the best coders I've known...
>  >
>  >                 bob wyman
>  >
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Jay Vaughan

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