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RE: When Searching With Google

• To: "'Murali Mani'" <mani@C...>
• Subject: RE: When Searching With Google
• From: Strolia-Davis Christopher Contr MSG/MAT <Christopher.Strolia-Davis@w...>
• Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:50:02 -0500
• Cc: xml-dev@l...

I apologize if I am bringing up anything new here.  I just joined the list today, and I have only caught the last few messages in this thread.

In any case, I thought this link might be useful, as it gives a good abstract as to how Google prioritizes search results.

http://www.google.com/technology/index.html

Chris Strolia-Davis
Database Specialist
Contractor - CDO Technologies Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: Murali Mani [mailto:mani@C...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 4:41 PM
To: Bullard, Claude L (Len)
Cc: xml-dev@l...
Subject: RE:  When Searching With Google



Len, I guess I understand now what you are saying precisely; I cannot
agree with you more.. excellent point. best, murali.

On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:

> Interpret, yes, but also to enable selection of visualization techniques
> in adaptive graphical user interfaces.  As the next generation of
> adaptive interfaces emerges, we need to know more about the sources,
> their policies (eg, algorithms) to enable the system to dynamically
> select the interface model.  That's a side jaunt, but what was on my
> mind while I was walking the dog.
>
> To be clear, I am not singling out Google as having become proprietary;
> I think that if we look around, we'll find non-deterministic aspects in
> many search engines, and possibly, **web services in general**.  I used
> Google as the example because of realizing that my own mental model of
> the search interface is likely incorrect with how Google actually
> processes terms that I enter.  The rest is a follow on from that
> realization.  Part of that realization was that the metadata being
> derived is probably skewed as well, but how would one know?
>
> We say we can build web services as encapsulated systems and we can; yet
> that old bugaboo of trust but verify keeps popping back up.  It is as if
> we need a model for adaptive paranoia which is what contracting
> processes are.
>
> len
>
> From: Murali Mani [mailto:mani@C...]
>
> I think Len is arguing that if we know more about how google searches, we
> can interpret the results more.. such as in germany, I get german pages
> etc..
>
> I think several techniques used by google are kind of known..?? for
> example, we know that it uses page rank, text in anchor tags, tf-idf etc..
> but we do not know the exact numbers, and we do not know other metrics
> used etc..
>
> I think the question is: has google crossed the line with respect to what
> is proprietary and what is disclosed. I think Len argues that it has..
>
...

Chris Strolia-Davis (E-mail).vcf

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