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RE: can you use inheritance (extension) in relax ng?

• To: 'Joe English' <jenglish@f...>, xml-dev@l...
• Subject: RE: can you use inheritance (extension) in relax ng?
• From: "Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <clbullar@i...>
• Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:20:59 -0500

It is a good paper.  This documents the results that the VRML 
community made note of during the X3D design effort.  The term 
"impedance mismatch" was used widely there as well and described 
on this list.  The chilling effect of the network effect is that 
VRML doubled back on a clear and clean object description to 
use XML.   We get the tools but at the cost of clarity in the 
model by having to boot it up a level of abstraction to 
accomodate two data models (XML and VRML97) and two syntaxes.

While the use and convenience of this is obvious, there is something 
spooky about making concepts such as compositors first class 
data objects.   It has the same uncomfortable feel to it that 
WYSIWYG does but I can't quite say why.

So the future of Longhorn is XML as first class objects and XUL?
The MID lives.

Commodity marketing: the best shall be worst because the least 
are the most.  The success of the web architecture is that it 
mandated that all applications should be equally uncaring and 
dumb by removing the possibility of agressive local evolution.  
As was hoped for, XML and its attendant processes have hogtied 
the dominant vendors, successfully slowing their rate of innovation, 
and constrained the web mavens into debating the details of an 
architecture already moribund by the time it became dominant. 
Now the new predators will emerge from the niches.

The revenge of the forty-somethings is complete.

len


From: Joe English [mailto:jenglish@f...]

Dare Obasanjo wrote:
> [Simon St.Laurent]:
> > If I was interested in building type systems around XML documents, I
> > think I'd be even more frustrated with W3C XML Schema than I am today.
>
> You're not the only one. See
> http://www.research.microsoft.com/~emeijer/Papers/XML2003/xml2003.html

This is the most promising approach to "data-oriented" XML
that I've seen.  I think Meijer's on to something here.

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