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Re: UTF-8+names

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• Subject: Re: UTF-8+names
• From: Rick Jelliffe <ricko@a...>
• Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:55:43 +1000
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John Cowan wrote:

>It's easier to make happen.  As editor and original chief pusher of
>XML 1.1, I know what I'm talking about.
>
That seems a little whiffy, John. As probably a bane of your life at 
that time, I note that:

* XML 1.1 did not fix a problem that a significant number of existing 
current users had,
* XML 1.1 drafts involved altering qualities of XML that some people 
considered significant, and
* at least at one stage the XML WG tried to dismiss discussion of the 
ramifactions of drafts by a
bureaucratic slight-of-hand (i.e. that it wouldn't discuss individual 
characters because that was
now Unicode' business). 

The idea of specifying fallback behaviour for references to undeclared 
entities with
standard names
* fixes a current problem that a significant number of users have,
* does not alter XML's robustness but makes it less fragile.
* And the XML WG is very cooperative.

Furthermore, I have always felt that a version-up of XML would not 
thrive unless it
had enough bang-per-buck. A reform to undeclared entity defaulting plus 
the 1.1 changes
are more likely to be over the tipping point that just 1.1  alone.

Cheers
Rick Jelliffe

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