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RE: Managing Innovation

• To: "Tim Bray" <tbray@t...>,"Dare Obasanjo" <dareo@m...>
• Subject: RE: Managing Innovation
• From: "Joshua Allen" <joshuaa@m...>
• Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:24:25 -0700
• Cc: "Rich Salz" <rsalz@d...>,"Bullard, Claude L \(Len\)" <clbullar@i...>,"Chris Wilper" <cwilper@c...>,<xml-dev@l...>
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• Thread-topic: Managing Innovation

> I don't buy it.  For that part of my professional career between the
> time that networking became ubiquitous and sometime in the last 24
> months, it was the case that a competently-managed Unix-family system
> was hard enough to break into that it usually wasn't cost-effective to

I would be interested to see the opinions of people who actually have
worked in security industry during that time period.  During 1994-1995 I
made my money performing security audits, penetration analysis for
military and commercial networks, and I remember seeing very few Unix
machines that were "hard enough" to break into.  To be fair, the same
was true of VMS, Mac, and Windows networks, but the point is that it is
very dubious to talk of *any* network circa 1996 being "hard enough" to
crack.

Maybe things are different today.  The people who crack networks for a
living would know.

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