RE: Longhorn, SVG and YAXUIL

To: "'AndrewWatt2000@a...'" <AndrewWatt2000@a...>, xml-dev@l...
Subject: RE: Longhorn, SVG and YAXUIL
From: "Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <clbullar@i...>
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:02:41 -0500

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They may be planning something more than a 2D vector language. If they use

SVG, all they have is SVG. If they extend it, they get beat to death for doing

that. If they don't use it, they get beat on for not doing that but at least they

have used XML as it is intended to be used.

I have no information about any of the above. I only want to make the point

that conformance with XML and conformance with standards does not

equal conformance with any given application language be it SVG, X3D,

HTML, whatever. Keep in mind, it is the object model semantics, not

the markup schema that determines what one can do with an application.

If they need extended or different semantics, they don't have any choice but

to route around SVG.

Otherwise, why would RELAX NG be posed as a competitor to XML Schema

and XML Schema to DTDs? S.O.P. Proprietary object models aren't going

away.

len

From: AndrewWatt2000@a... [mailto:AndrewWatt2000@a...]

I don't know how many on list are following developments with Microsoft's upcoming Longhorn OS (at least as far as it can be judged by publically available information).

Rumour, seemingly well-founded, suggests that Longhorn will have YAXUIL (Yet Another XML User Interface Language - my term, not Microsoft's) as a core part of the interface rather than XML. YAXUIL is, or so the rumours go, a Microsoft specific XML-based graphics language.

Personally I find it more than a little disappointing that Microsoft, who are talking up their open standards adherence on XML (with significant justification on some aspects) are bypassing SVG as an XML-based UI language.

I would be interested in reading comments of those who have information about the rationale for inventing YAXUIL for Longhorn when a standard 2D vector graphics language, SVG, already exists.

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