RE: more politics
What is sad here is that so far not a single point has been raised either scientifically, philosophically, or from an engineering point of view that hasn't been raised before. If the point is to gather into the architecture doc what the common view is of a resource, Joshua Allen said it last year, "it is a hypertext dispenser" which Pat generalized back to "it is a representation dispenser" and which for a possibly very large group of people, it is a server. A URI itself is defined completely in terms of syntax just like XML, so what it 'means' depends on who is speaking, therefore as has been asserted numerous times here there and elsewhere, the assertion that it identifies one and only one "thing" is as true as the context of use. The problem then becomes how to bound the web as a system or context of use (system is data plus operations) such that all properties of that definition are provable and then to examine case by case what overlaps there are with other systems that use the URI. None of that is news since the 1950s. As to the Pat as The Authority vs Tim as The Authority, that's a popularity contest. Last year's hit means nothing to this year's playlist except B rotation. len -----Original Message----- From: Mike Champion [mailto:mc@x...] On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:52:35 -0400, Simon St.Laurent <simonstl@s...> wrote: > In case today's xml-dev didn't have enough political discussion of > technical issues for you, may I strongly recommend: > > http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/07/23/deviant.html > > The issues are URIs and RDF, and a whole lot more. I also recommend http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www- tag/2003Jul/0302.html (the latest major post by Pat Hayes in that TAG megathread) as a very astute conclusion to the multi-year debate on resources, representations, URIs, etc.:
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