RE: XSLT vs. CSS (Re: Indexing)
At 11:38 AM 7/9/2003, Didier wrote: >Totally true. However in recent work I am doing that involves a lot of >usability (After so many years going back to my early Xerox PARC days :-), I >came to the conclusion as Marshall McLuhan came to before me that the >"medium is the message", said differently, the layout also convey some >information like for instance non verbal mimics also convey additional >information to the spoken words. Hence, I am not so sure that the cascading >mechanism which seems practical in theory is that much practical in the real >world. Changing the layout may change some part of the message the author >intended to send. Off course, if the author of the message is taken over by >some convulsive mimics to accompany the spoken words, or that the layout is >as ugly and idiosyncratic as my aunt wallpaper then for sure a cascading >mechanism would find a lot of buyer, but this is a different story :-) In other words, sometimes precise presentation semantics are vital to communication (as magazine advertisements must have high production values or they betray the products they are trying to sell -- if this isn't the case for you then why are you buying ads in *Vogue*?) -- other times not. (I really don't care what color paper your fax machine prints on as long as you can read it.) Part of the message of the web medium is some aspects of information can be held constant even while others vary, or escape control altogether. My red just isn't the same as yours. This may drive graphic designers (with Vogue expectations) crazy; yet for others it's a feature, not a bug. Grow your font size, or shrink it: it's cool! Certainly I want CSS, and better CSS, since it's simply superior to inline <FONT> tags for many compelling reasons, and would be even if I can generate FONTs ad nauseum from XSLT templates -- CSS is worth the extra overhead. I also want, and need, a language capable of arbitrary transformations of document structures. On the whole, I think the layered system that is evolving, notwithstanding the many confusions among designers and early adopters about which features are needed in which layer, is serviceable. For sure, way, way better than "best viewed in Netscape 2.0". And in the meantime, we get to figure out what the message of the web medium really is. Model View Controller ----- ----- ----- page code rendition CSS XML source page code XSLT ... Regards, Wendell ====================================================================== Wendell Piez mailto:wapiez@m... Mulberry Technologies, Inc. http://www.mulberrytech.com 17 West Jefferson Street Direct Phone: 301/315-9635 Suite 207 Phone: 301/315-9631 Rockville, MD 20850 Fax: 301/315-8285 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mulberry Technologies: A Consultancy Specializing in SGML and XML ======================================================================
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