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 <standardDisclaimer>It's Friday afternoon and len is going off again. Delete to protect your valuable time.</standardDisclaimer> From: John Cowan [mailto:jcowan@r...] Bullard, Claude L (Len) scripsit: >> Ever wonder why a consortium needs to be private >> if all of the competitors of worth are members? >> Who or what is the monster to be feared in this >> cartoon? >Their own managements, to be sure. By maintaining secrecy, W3C technical >folks can prevent press wars. But it doesn't work. The ugly press wars start anyway. And when the W3C didn't like the web services notions, other consortia with the same members but different policies were created. Smart agents don't keep doing something that doesn't work. That is akin to comparing babboon behaviors to chimps. Babboons have no impulse control. Chimps are better at that one. So it would seem the W3C member managers consider themselves to be a tribe of babboons, all get up and go and no ability to keep from stomping the babboon to their left when chasing a gazelle, thus losing the gazelle. When that doesn't work, they form a tribe of chimps. And it has not prevented the concentration of the power and the money mostly in the hands of a very few parties. In fact, it accelerated it. Cui bono? At the end of the competition of the hoimnids to become the dominant species, only one was left standing. (ref. Walking With Cavemen - Discovery Channel, produced in England I think). Why are humans the only species left? Violence or the traits that lead to enabling complex systems that enabled weaker members to survive only emerged in one line? Imagination added to the capacity to see self as other? Is the W3C cro-magnon or neanderthal? Where are the rest of us in this picture? Using the tools made by... which? Whatever we say, some of the members are quite adaptive in shaping the environment to meet their own agendas and getting the rest of us to go along with it. What was it T. Lawrence said: "The preaching was the most important thing." No, I think they and TimBL were lead to a consortium style and it worked for those that lead them there. It has been successful over a short term for managing assets and getting a lot of important open technologies launched. I do fear that if one looks deeply into who benefits by that, one will find there are both public and private interests at work, or as my Dad used to say, "when it comes to keeping moonshine illegal, the preachers and the moonshiners are in it together". The same system that enables public communications enables theft of private property and total information awareness. That was the danger my CALS mentors warned me about when building global hypermedia systems over TCP/IP and the Internet were discussed before the Web was created: it's a system with no real safeguards built in at the get go, so by the time the users realize the trap, they are in it. Cui bono? len 
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