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Dare: If you can't talk the Word people into supporting arbitrary schemas it would be very nice if they supported a few of the standard DTDs in the low-end version. For example, Docbook and TEI are used by a great number of organizations. However, I will still keep my fingers crossed for arbitrary schemas (DTD's would be nice too but I have given up hope on those in Word). Betty /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Betty Harvey | Phone: 410-787-9200 FAX: 9830 Electronic Commerce Connection, Inc. | harvey@e... | Washington,DC XML Users Grp URL: http://www.eccnet.com | http://www.eccnet.com/xmlug /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\\/\/ On Mon, 21 Apr 2003, Dare Obasanjo wrote: > Interesting comments, I'll be sure to pass them along to Word's XML folks. > > ________________________________ > > From: Doug Rudder [mailto:drudder@d...] > Sent: Mon 4/21/2003 8:52 AM > To: xml-dev@l... > Subject: RE: Joint ownership of the data-dataContainer combination > > > > > What does this entire thread have to do with XML? > > Believe it or not, this thread began with a post lamenting the idea that > only the professional levels or Word 11 will allow users to plug in their > own schemas to create XML documents, thus forcing home users to use WordML. > This somehow spawned a cockamamy theory of data ownership and a lengthy > thread, short on substance but with mild entertainment value. > > What got lost in the thread was part of the original issue, that of the > average home user not being able to use custom schemas in Word. I'll give an > illustration of why this can be a problem for some folks (not intended to be > Microsoft-bashing). > > The company I work for publishes drug information, both in print and > electronic formats. We often use off-site reviewers (healthcare > professionals) and tech writers/editors. When we heard that Word 11 was > going to provide XML functionality, we saw this as a great opportunity to > send XML files to our reviewers/freelancers and round trip the data back > into our CMS without a lot of extra steps. They would simply be upgrading a > tool they already had. This would save a lot of time, effort, and expense. > > Then it came out that the home version of Word 11 does not provide the > capability to use custom schemas; only the WordML schema is available. Most > of our reviewers are not going to be able to afford the high-end version of > Word at home, and the company certainly cannot afford to buy copies for > them, so the option of Word for XML has faded. > > Betty Harvey and Len Bullard made pertinent comments earlier in the thread: > > <len>What I would want is that ANY version of Word, Access, > Excel, etc. regardless of target market should be able to map their > own schema and export or import accordingly.</len> > > <betty>I think WordPerfect (Corel) did a nice job (not perfect) of > including SGML and now XML into the WordPerfect product. The compiled > XML application could be given to the end user. The end user could > provide XML data where required but could still use WordPerfect > as a daily word processor. XML is embedded in the product as > an add-on and those who aren't interested aren't bothered by it.</betty> > > This is one of the reasons I use WordPerfect at home now. I can load my own > DTD and XML files and take them back and forth between home and work, as > well as use them in most other XML editing applications. This is part of the > point of XML; it is vendor/platform/format independent. > > Should Microsoft make all XML functionality available in their low-end > version of Word 11? Probably not. But the ability to use custom schemas is a > basic need; it would be beneficial for this to be included in all versions > of Word. Then those who only need to be able to modify XML documents > according to a specific schema would have access to do so. In other words, > provide the basic XML functions already provided by a competitor in the > lower-end product, then provide advanced functions in the advanced version > of the product. > > Just a thought (or a wish). > > ____________________________________ > Douglas Rudder drudder@d... > "Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most times he will > pick himself up and carry on." -- Winston Churchill > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org <http://www.xml.org>, an > initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> > > The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the subscription > manager: <http://lists.xml.org/ob/adm.pl> > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org <http://www.xml.org>, an > initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> > > The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the subscription > manager: <http://lists.xml.org/ob/adm.pl> > --
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