Re: GXA specifications process
More on the subject of reliable messaging: BEA recently released 3 "WS-X" specifications, one of which (WS-Acknowledgement) addresses reliable messaging: WS-Acknowledgement WS-Callback WS-MessageData More details: * WS-Acknowledgement: Designed to support reliable message exchange between services by providing for at-least-once and exactly-once SOAP message transfer guarantees; * WS-Callback: Used to dynamically specify where to send asynchronous responses to a SOAP request; * WS-MessageData: Enables the re-use of meta-data about a message across SOAP extensions; Now there are 3 reliable messaging specifications "out there": (1)WS-Reliability (SUN and others, being developed under OASIS WSRM TC) (2)WS-ReliableMessaging (part of GXA) (2)WS-Acknowledgement (BEA) From (at least) a very high-level standpoint, one may observe that all 3 of these specifications are in fact very similar. Kind Regards, Joe Chiusano Booz | Allen | Hamilton Chiusano Joseph wrote: > > Martin, > > I am speaking from outside the authorship of the GXA specs. > > One GXA specification - WS-Security - is currently being developed under > OASIS. Two others - DIME and WS-Attachments - are within IETF. The rest > are "property of" their respective authors. My hope is that more GXA > specs will move into open consortiums (hopefully OASIS) in the near > future, and pass through the open standards process as quickly as > possible as well. They are (in my opinion) wonderful specifications, > and I firmly believe that pushing them all through an open standards > process will be a *critical factor* for the future success of GXA. > > So if you need a reliable messaging policy, I believe your best bet > right now is to track the WS-Reliability spec and the OASIS Web Services > Reliable Messaging (WSRM) TC , as it is already within an open > standards process (I am a member of this TC). I don't have exact > timeframes yet, but will probably have a better idea in the near future. > > Hope that helps, > Joe Chiusano > Booz | Allen | Hamilton > >  http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=wss >  http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=wsrm > > martin@h... wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Does anyone know what the status or process of the GXA specifications are? > > They're officially published by Microsoft et al, and generally refered to > > as 'standards', but is there anything like a review/endorsement process in > > operation? > > > > The WS-ReliableMessaging specification index page  says: > > 'Status > > WS-ReliableMessaging was published as a public specification on 13 March > > 2003. This is the first joint BEA/IBM/Microsoft/TIBCO Software publication > > of the specification.' > > > > What does that mean, exactly: 'public specification'? > > > > I've come across some issues regarding the WS-ReliableMessaging > > specification that I feel compelled to report to the powers that be. > > However, apart from the names and companies in the author list I can't > > figure out who or what those powers may be. The spec hasn't, afaik, been > > submitted to any standards organisation and with OASIS already > > having a Reliable Messaging TC in place it seems somehow unlikely that it > > ever will. > > > > The spec itself  says: > > 'Status > > WS-ReliableMessaging and related specifications are provided for use as-is > > and for review and evaluation only. BEA, IBM, Microsoft, and TIBCO > > Software will solicit your contributions and suggestions in the near > > future. BEA, IBM, Microsoft, and TIBCO Software make no warrantees or > > representations regarding the specification in any manner whatsoever.' > > > > So they'll accept comments 'in the near future'? > > > > Meanwhile, I'm in a position where I _need_ a reliable messaging policy > > even if I have to write it myself, and I'm sure many analysts and > > developers on WS projects are in the same situation. > > It would be nice to know what the plan is with the various specifications > > that are floating about. At least with OASIS one knows what the process > > is, and that there's a TC to which comments can be submitted  (whether > > they read them is another question!), so there's some sort of assurance > > that problems will be dealt with. > > > > Anyone clued up on the mysterious ways of the GXA? > > > > cheers, > > > > /m > > > > ps I've asked some of these questions before but didn't get any replies, > > I'm sure someone on the list must know. (Whether they're allowed to > > discuss what they know is a different issue..!) > > > > Martin Klang > > http://www.o-xml.org - the object-oriented XML programming language > > > > ref: > >  http://msdn.microsoft.com/webservices/understanding/gxa/default.aspx?pull=/library/en-us/dnglobspec/html/wsrmspecindex.asp > >  http://msdn.microsoft.com/webservices/default.aspx?pull=/library/en-us/dnglobspec/html/ws-reliablemessaging.asp > >  mailto:wsrm-comment@l... > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org <http://www.xml.org>, an > > initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> > > > > The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the subscription > > manager: <http://lists.xml.org/ob/adm.pl> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org <http://www.xml.org>, an > initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> > > The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the subscription > manager: <http://lists.xml.org/ob/adm.pl>
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