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Re: Internal entities removed from XML?

• To: Mike Champion <mc@x...>
• Subject: Re: Internal entities removed from XML?
• From: Uche Ogbuji <uche.ogbuji@f...>
• Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:39:59 -0700
• Cc: "Xml-Dev@Lists. Xml. Org (E-mail)" <xml-dev@l...>
• In-reply-to: Message from Mike Champion <mc@x...> of "Wed, 18 Dec 2002 16:38:04 EST." <oprhmedqszezizxn@s...>
• Sender: Uche Ogbuji <uche.ogbuji@f...>

> On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 13:15:35 -0800, Doug Ransom <Doug.Ransom@p...> 
> wrote:
> 
> > To load any valid XML 1.0 document, you have to go out of your way.  Its 
> > not super-hard, but many developers are not going to realize this and not 
> > test with documents with entity references.  Their products will tend not 
> > to fail until they hit the field.  As a result, people will be loathe to 
> > include entity references in their documents knowing most .net programs 
> > are not designed for XML 1.0, but a subset of XML 1.0 that exludes entity 
> > references.
> 
> [Wondering what Microsoft put the in beer at XML 2002 last week ... I can't 
> believe I'm arguing on the side of the Borg twice in one week ;-) ]
> 
> This seems perfectly sensible to me.  It's a way for vendors to say "we 
> support the standards as written, but we encourage our customers to use the 
> profiles that avoid the ratholes ."

What the blazes?

So what is the merest point of standards, if any party can just ignore a 
standard as it pleases?

It must have been *very* strange stuff that whoever put in the beer.  I don't 
think I've even heard such a ludicrous viewpoint from a Microsoft rep.


> Also, I'm sure it is no coincidence 
> that .NET's XML tools appear to be focused on the subset of XML that SOAP 
> employs.

These are not "SOAP parsers" but "XML parsers".  That should end this paltry 
justification.


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