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Re: Typing and paranoia

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• Subject: Re: Typing and paranoia
• From: Bill de hÓra <bill.dehora@p...>
• Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 11:51:43 +0000
• Cc: Elliotte Rusty Harold <elharo@m...>, XML Dev <xml-dev@l...>
• Organization: Propylon
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Robin Berjon wrote:
> Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote:
> 
>> There is no guarantee that the binary formats exported by one process 
>> make sense ton the next, even on the same architecture. I'm confident 
>> I can make sense out of XML on both ends. I'm not so sure about binary 
>> formats.
> 
> 
> I've passed gzip'd data around boxes of different architectures, and I 
> tend to be pretty confident I can make sense of it on both sides. 
> There's no reason a well defined binary infoset couldn't make anyone 
> confident.

Yet somehow we haven't managed to do that yet. All the stuff that 
interoperates is textual.

I wonder if the problem is not so much binary v XML, but the that 
XML trees are awkward enough datastructures to stream efficiently 
and require too much buffering. Even if you can pass it around 
binary Infosets, processors still have the root ndoe/element item to 
contend with. Perhaps the problem goes away when we stop insisting 
on sending large single XML documents around instead of a few 
smaller ones. There's a lot to be said for the packet and MIME 
worldviews.

Bill de hÓra
--
Propylon
www.propylon.com

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