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> -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Champion [mailto:mc@x...] > Yup, I did over-do the numbers, didn't I? :-) Sorry for getting caught > up in gloom. I will happily admit that Acrobat and Flash are both more or > less ubiquitous. And that was my point -- as a practical matter one has > to develop rich client internet apps for the software that one expects > the > target audience to have pre-installed. Well, first off, Acrobat and SVG are two completely different media formats. Acrobat is for PDF, which is generally used for print publications (you know, you download a PDF file not so much to read on your screen but to print on your printer). SVG is a vector-based illustration language which in my mind is best used as a complement to another presentation vocabulary such as XHTML or XSL-FO. So if there is any tie-in to developing (or developed) W3C standards, we're talking XSL-FO, not SVG (although you can include SVG in XSL-FO documents, I am pretty sure, the same way you can include vector graphics in final production print documents -- but I don't have any personal experience trying to get an XSL-FO document with embedded SVG into a PDF format, and, I could be wrong about that). Adobe supports SVG through its unfortunate SVG reader. I wasn't aware Acrobat had any support for SVG, and thought it was strictly a PDF reader. > So, again as a practical matter in today's environment, what can one > do in SVG (as supported in recent Acrobat Readers) that would offer > a "rich client" experience -- nice looking UI, client-side > assistance/validation, > the hokey animated effects that I personally hate but Joe Consumer > apparently > likes ... along with the ability to produce and consume XML content. Now > for the less hopeful question: what tools exist > that would allow non-geeks to develop such content in SVG? As supported by Adobe's SVG plug-in, you mean? Nothing. The plug-in is awful. But in theory, you should be able to do anything in SVG that you can do in Flash, and more, including video (by interacting with another nascent and poorly supported vocabulary, SMIL) and much better support for XML data sources. >(I > think we could probably agree that Flash MX more or less defines > the state of the art?) How about XForms? I at least hear > rumors of XForms implementations that will run in Flash reader > (not sure of the version). XForms in Flash? Can I see this implementation? Flash support for XML is something only people with very strong stomachs are willing to fight through. Whoever can get an XForms implementation working in it should receive some kind of award. Cheers, Chuck White ------------------------- Author, Mastering XSLT, Sybex Books Co-Author, Mastering XML Premium Edition, Sybex Books http://www.javertising.com/webtech/ http://www.tumeric.net
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