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Re: Redefining the meaning of common nouns

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• Subject: Re: Redefining the meaning of common nouns
• From: Eric van der Vlist <vdv@d...>
• Date: 29 Nov 2002 15:58:30 +0100
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On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 15:44, Mike Champion wrote:

> IMHO, the most of
> the disputes are about the details of technology and dogma, and "web 
> service" can be defined in a way that allows one to be implemented
> with REST/XML, SOAP/WSDL, RDF/ontologies, and all sorts of interesting
> combinations thereof.

Yes, this is part of the issue. I tend to use the term "web service" as
something enough to include REST/XML (with or without formal XML
description) and this is a source of confusion when discussing with
people who assume that a Web service must be based upon SOAP/WSDL and
UDDI.

> > In other words, a Web resource described as XML in a document which
> > stays on my laptop's hard disk meets the W3C definition while a Web
> > resource which description would be published as WikiML documentation,
> > Relax NG schema using the compact syntax and RDF/N3 does not.
> 
> Aha! I see the issue now ...  That is MOST DEFINITELY not the intent of the 
> W3C WSA definition.I think we meant "XML" as the data model / Infoset (the
> view enshrined in SOAP 1.2) [ducking the flames from Rich Salz and Tim Bray 
> :-) ]
> and apparently people are reading the "XML" reference as insisting on XML 
> 1.x syntax.  Clearly the definition needs some wordsmithing!

Why not just say something such as:

"A Web service is a software system identified by a URI [RFC 2396],
whose public interfaces and bindings may be defined, described and
published using web standards."

Eric
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    • From: Eric van der Vlist <vdv@d...>
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