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Re: xsd validation was RE: XPath/XSLT 2.0 concerns

• To: "Gerben Rampaart \(Casnet Rotterdam\)" <Gerben@C...>
• Subject: Re: xsd validation was RE: XPath/XSLT 2.0 concerns
• From: "John Mani" <john@s...>
• Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 16:52:41 -0700
• Cc: <xml-dev@l...>
• References: <MHEKJACEHBDICMHDOHNDAEINCFAA.Gerben@C...>

> Indeed, not many I would think. Truth is that many developers / teams
choose
> for XML as the communication language between various components of their
> application which they all write themselves. And why would you use
> validation in such a case ? You know perfectly well which XML is being
> generated ... it's not going to change overnight. One side on the app
> generates and the other side receives (and vice-versa) ... no need for a
DTD
> or XSD.

Maybe not for validation, but quite likely for documenting what the 'data
format' looks
like.
And now, with folks using SOAP-RPC, the soap toolkits themselves do the XSD
validation - as directed by the WSDL

-john

>
> Agreed ?
>
> Gerben.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bryan [mailto:bry@i...]
> Sent: 03 October 2002 09:48
> To: 'Tim Bray'
> Cc: xml-dev@l...
> Subject:  xsd validation was RE:  XPath/XSLT 2.0
> concerns
>
>
>
> >  Any wrapper that includes XSD validation is going to be an
> >awfully thick "wrapper" though.  And a *lot* of people are writing apps
>
> >that read in XML right now today; I wonder how many of them are
> >including an XSD valudation step? -Tim
>
>
> Well for those I've seen where the XML and the validation requirements
> have not been trivial the app invariably either needs to do some of the
> validation, or the app needs to have extra logic at the front where XML
> generation takes place to make sure that the Human Understandable date
> gets changed into XSDL understandable date, with hopefully some
> validation code to make sure that the Human Understandable date is an
> actual date.
> - obviously date is just one of the examples, other example is changing
> from currency formats, for example changing 1.006.459,00 to 1,006,459.00
> which is something one would most likely want to deal with anyway.
> Point being that I see quite a lot of this kind of stuff having to be
> done wherever the data is important and then finally the XSDL gets added
> in basically checking that structure is right.
>
>
>
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