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Re: Great piece on RSS

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• Subject: Re: Great piece on RSS
• From: Paul Prescod <paul@p...>
• Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:12:14 -0700
• Cc: "Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <clbullar@i...>
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Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:
>...
> The bit that other's opinions of something are 
> more important than the vendor's statements 
> is not only dumb, but flies directly in the 
> face of how contracting actually works.  I 
> can consult the newspaper or even the Better 
> Business Bureau and get opinions, but when it 
> comes time to sign on the dotted line, I 
> want the documents from the participating 
> parties.

This argument leads to the same place that REST does. When you want to 
know what services IBM offers, you ask IBM, not uddi.microsoft.com. *At 
best* you treat information from uddi.microsoft.com as a *hint* and go 
to IBM for the canonical stuff.

  * http://www.blogstream.com/pauls/1034221895/index_html

But that's not how UDDI works.

 >   UDDI may not be the best player,
> but it does have the quality that what one 
> asserts one must back up. 

This is provably false. Do I need to register myself as a space tourism 
business to prove this to you?

> ... Using Google, 
> anyone can say anything about anyone or 
> anything and that is far too easy to game.

If you believe everything you read on either Google or UDDI, I've got a 
time share business I'll register.

Furthermore, all of this "you get what you pay for" stuff is pure FUD. 
Who can I pay for quality information in a UDDI repository? Google is 
free. UDDI is free. Yahoo is free. Meerkat is free. Three of the four 
have proven themselves as solving real-world problems. One hasn't. There 
are also many pay-to-play registries and there is certainly an important 
role for them. Payment mechanism is totally orthogonal to REST, as is 
signing.

But I don't know why I'm arguing this with you. Even most afficinados of 
web services admit UDDI is a dead end. If you want to hold out hope for 
it, please turn out the light when you leave.

  Paul Prescod

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