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Re: limits of the generic

• To: "Jeff Greif" <jgreif@a...>
• Subject: Re: limits of the generic
• From: Jeni Tennison <jeni@j...>
• Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 22:50:56 +0100
• Cc: xml-dev@l...
• In-reply-to: <016501c267ef$c36b29a0$6400a8c0@JMG>
• Organization: Jeni Tennison Consulting Ltd
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• Reply-to: Jeni Tennison <jeni@j...>

Hi Jeff,

> Yes, the comparison of these durations is determinate. However, it
> is inconsistent with
>
>     2004-02-29 + P1Y1D > 2004-02-29 + P365D
>
> which is false according to the algorithm you described, (but would
> be true for any starting date which is not 02-29 in a leap year). In
> other words, I cannot deduce from x > y (P1Y1D > P365D) that a + x >
> a + y. I realize its a different > operator (for durations vs.
> dates), but if they are not defined consistently there is a problem.

Ah, I see what you mean. It's not just a problem with xs:durations,
though, rather a problem whenever there's "pinning" of the dates back
to valid values. For example, even if you're just looking at
xf:yearMonthDurations, you'd expect:

  (2002-08-31 + P1M) + P1M

to be equal to:

  2002-08-31 + (P1M + P1M)

but (according to the algorithm in the Datatypes Rec.):

  (2002-08-31 + P1M) + P1M  =>  2002-09-30 + P1M  =>  2002-10-30

whereas:

  2002-08-31 + (P1M + P1M)  =>  2002-08-31 + P2M  =>  2002-10-31

I don't know whether XQuery & XPath 2.0 are supposed to use the W3C
XML Schema algorithm or not. The F&O WD just says:

  op:add-yearMonthDuration-to-dateTime(dateTime $srcval1,
    yearMonthDuration $srcval2) => dateTime

  Returns the end of a time period by adding a yearMonthDuration
  ($srcval2) to the dateTime that starts the period ($srcval1). If the
  duration is negative, then the "end" of the period precedes the
  "start" of the period.

Well spotted. I'll raise it as an issue.
  
Cheers,

Jeni

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Jeni Tennison
http://www.jenitennison.com/

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