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RE: "In hot summer have I great rejoicing/When the tempestskil

• To: Eric van der Vlist <vdv@d...>
• Subject: RE: "In hot summer have I great rejoicing/When the tempestskill the earth's foul peace"
• From: "J. David Eisenberg" <catcode@c...>
• Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:09:46 -0500 (CDT)
• Cc: Danny Ayers <danny666@v...>, Uche Ogbuji <uche.ogbuji@f...>, <xml-dev@l...>
• In-reply-to: <1025819102.20343.83.camel@ibook>

On 4 Jul 2002, Eric van der Vlist wrote:

> On Thu, 2002-07-04 at 22:56, Danny Ayers wrote:
> 
> > The contrast is made between the 'byzantine' WXS and the 'more appropriate'
> > RELAX NG. More appropriate for whom? Like the perceived enemy here, if we
> > don't like a WXS then we can go off and create a RELAX NG. No need to tilt
> > at windmills.
> 
> That's perfectly fine with me as long as WXS isn't presented as a
> component of a "XML Core" box on which everything else will be built
> including future releases of XSLT, XPath and even the Semantic Web.

And worse, when tools are built which will _only_ accept schemas to
validate their input files rather than having plug-in validation via some
standard API that can be used by RNG or XML Schema or
<fill-in-the-blank/>. [I'm talking about simple yes/no validation rather
than the fancy granular validation that XML Schema is said to provide.]

And even worse, when organizations like the U.S. Government say that "we
will use only XML Schema," irrespective of the technical merits thereof.
> 
> This is the windmill against which I am trying to fight since the
> presentation of Tim Berners-Lee in Hong Kong last year which clearly
> shown this frightening picture:
> 
> http://xmlhack.com/read.php?item=1197
> 
> I am quite happy to see a raising attention on this issue which is IMO
> fundamental: good or not, IMO schema languages do not belong to XML Core
> and it's as bad to package a schema language (any of them) in the box
> named "XML Core" as packaging any programming language in this box
> (Java, C#, Python or whatever).
> 
> Creating a dependency between XML and programing or design technologies
> will kill the goose that lay the golden eggs and XML wouldn't be XML any
> longer without its interoperability!
> 
> Eric
> 

-- 
J. David Eisenberg  http://catcode.com/

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