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RE: DTDs, W3C Schemas, RELAX NG, Schematron?

• To: clbullar@i...
• Subject: RE: DTDs, W3C Schemas, RELAX NG, Schematron?
• From: tariq abdur-rahim <ecliptoid330@y...>
• Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 09:36:46 -0700 (PDT)
• Cc: xml-dev@l...
• In-reply-to: <2C61CCE8A870D211A523080009B94E430752B4B7@HQ5>

Interesting point!  However, would the argument now,
not be that, given the realative "weakness" of DTDs in
comparison to Schemas, RELAX NG, and Schematron, what
would the purpose be of even going the DTD route for
validation?  Too, given the example stated... 

"Say you want to design a new parts language. 
You will want to validate your design.  Once 
done, someone using it probably doesn't want 
to do that.  You can start from DTDs, or you 
can start higher up from XML Schema.  How 
much validation do you need?  For example, 
Schemas will do more than DTDs, but not as 
much as Schemas plus Schematron.  You 
can do it all with Schematron, but that 
could be painful."

...(a) "...Schemas will do more than DTDs, but not as
much as Schemas plus Schematron...", why bother with
DTDs at all?  (b) Since, "DTDs aren't as strong as XML
Schema or RELAX NG for validation..." and "...you
might still need schematron or a means to enforce
business rules...", again i must ask why DTDs - now.

Back when it was first introduced is understandable,
but with the advent of the aforementioned
technologies, i am left with a feeling of "why?"
regarding the DTD approach.

With that in mind, is there a bottom-line sans the
"based upon situation" recourse?



Regards,






--- "Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <clbullar@i...>
wrote:
> Don't overlook RELAX RNG.  Despite it's status 
> vis a vis the W3C, I think it has a future as 
> the "easier to do and easier to explain" schema 
> language with a little less than XSD and a 
> bit more than DTDs.
> 
> len
> 
> From: tariq abdur-rahim
> [mailto:ecliptoid330@y...]
> 
> Thanks a lot betty, len, and michael.  The input and
> advice is very informative and most definately
> appreciated.  i guess in a nutshell, DTDs still
> carry
> a certain significance and an amount of usefulness,
> but the Schema+Schematron combination is a
> 'stronger'
> approach to take in XML application development.
> 
> len, i will definately check out the resources that
> you suggested.


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