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RE: Will Web Services Kill HTTP?

• To: "'Mike Champion'" <mc@x...>,"'xml-dev'" <xml-dev@l...>
• Subject: RE: Will Web Services Kill HTTP?
• From: Bill de hÓra <dehora@e...>
• Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 20:44:56 +0100
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• In-reply-to: <4LKQPHGZW1T98RLWRICJIT1V845FC.3cb71945@MChamp>

 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Champion [mailto:mc@x...] 
> Sent: 12 April 2002 18:29
> To: xml-dev
> Subject:  Will Web Services Kill HTTP?
> 
> 
> 4/12/2002 12:20:02 PM, "Simon St.Laurent" 
> <simonstl@s...> wrote:
> 
> >From the smoke-filled rooms department:
> >
> Here's another slightly strange take on web services, also 
> from ZDNet. http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1107-881592.html  "Why 
> Web services will kill HTTP-- eventually".

Not really strange, people like Henrik Frystyk Nielsen have been
aware of the tension between SOAP and HTTP for 'a while' now: 

"With SOAP we are talking building on the experience that we have
with
HTTP and to use a new framework which is XML rather than RFC 822
style
header fields. As such there will always be conflicts between what
one
can do with HTTP and what one can do with SOAP. 

In fact, I would not get too hung up about the HTTP binding - SOAP
is
deliberately designed *not* to depend on HTTP and rather than
spending
our time trying to retrofit SOAP into HTTP in ways that are not
natural,
I would suggest that we keep in mind that there are other ways of
exchanging SOAP messages that are likely to be much better fits."

<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2001May/0096.html>

If the things people want to do with SOAP are so compelling, but
[expletive deleted] over HTTP, then yes people will move off HTTP. But not before
trying to unmercilessly rubber hammer the two together; HTTP has
the machinery mindshare at and the world doesn't seem to be in the
mood to buy new kit at the moment.

Bill de hÓra

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