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Re: W3C Culture and Aims (Was: What does SOAP really ad

• To: "Ann Navarro" <ann@w...>
• Subject: Re: W3C Culture and Aims (Was: What does SOAP really ad
• From: arg@u... (Alain Rogister)
• Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 17:38:05 +0200
• Cc: <xml-dev@l...>,"John Cowan" <jcowan@r...>,"Matthew Gertner" <matthew.gertner@s...>
• References: <DC1124C4368AA9438D9DEC34ECB6F162013EBA1E@o...> <4.3.2.7.2.20020423090159.027ba620@m...>

"Technology Z is a waste of time, yet they claim to support that
Standard!?!, someone's lying to us!"
-- Ann Navaro

You are right, taking out of context is effective. I just checked and this Z
technology you mentioned belongs to Nissan: http://www.z.com  I'll report
you to their legal eagles.

Alain.
---
Alain Rogister
CTO
http://www.ubiquity.be

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Navarro" <ann@w...>
To: "John Cowan" <jcowan@r...>; "Matthew Gertner"
<matthew.gertner@s...>
Cc: <xml-dev@l...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 3:07 PM
Subject: Re:  W3C Culture and Aims (Was: What does SOAP really ad


> At 08:36 PM 4/22/2002 -0400, John Cowan wrote:
>
> >That is indeed (or so I believe) in progress, but the W3C is unwilling
> >to impose openness, *especially* retroactively, on its WGs.
>
> Absolutely -- and new charters of existing working groups and new groups
> are asked to discuss the access issue -- though, as far as I know, open
> access has not been imposed upon a group against their will.
>
> It's far more than grandstanding. Look at the quip a few days ago about an
> IRC transcript -- imagine any comment, no matter how flip, no matter how
> devil's advocate, no matter how pointed, could be read by anyone -- and
> then misinterpreted, taken out of context, or otherwise manipulated, and
> then you see headlines or email "flashes" about how Company Y thinks
> Technology Z is a waste of time, yet they claim to support that
> Standard!?!, someone's lying to us! That guy is from Company Y, so he's
> speaking the Official Company Party Line on this!!!!
>
> No amount of disclaimers will go around that -- public input *is*
> available, any time after an initial draft is published. You don't have to
> wait for a special call for it, read it and comment.
>
> Suggestions of improprieties (what dastardly improprieties could there be
> anyway? Oh! My! Company Y and Company Z, official enemies, actually AGREED
> on something!!!) simply because you can't see letter and verse of every
> conversion are just downright paranoid.
>
> Ann
> Ann Navarro, WebGeek Inc.
> http://www.webgeek.com/
> What's on my mind? http://www.snorf.net/blog/
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    • From: Ann Navarro <ann@w...>

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