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[Dare Obasanjo] > I've used SQL, C++, Java, and C# to write medium sized applications and have never read any of the actual standards or specification documents yet managed to be rather productive with most of my problems being due to errors on my part than due to complexity or design of the language/technology at hand. > > On the other hand, I literally read W3C XML recomendations on a daily basis and (in my opinion) still have difficulties in utilizing these technologies in non-trivial applications, many of which are based on the limitations and interconnectedness of these technologies. > > If many users constantly have problems with your technology it means one of two things a.) there is something wrong with your users or b.) there is something wrong with the technology. > I never read those standards, either, although I tried a few times. To me, xml, xslt, and xpath Recs are much more readable and usable than some of the programming specs I've tried to work with. I can't say as much for xml Schema, though. But there have been enough good books on the programming languages to give me help. How many Java neophytes know the ins and outs of final, static, constant, private, protected, and so forth (I'm one of those neophytes)? That kind of thing is harder to get without reading something good on the subject. Even knowing what to put in a .h file is not so easy to learn once things start getting complicated. Still, I agree that the more special cases and non-obvious things there are, the harder a system is to use. Using J2EE and enterpries java beans isn't trivial, I believe. XML covers a wide range of uses and I venture to say that a lot of people aren't that familiar with document structure and models, nor with tree structures. I think that xml tends to make those things seem simpler than they are. I tend to think that, if you can get started easily, and if a person finds it reasonably easy to extend what they can do as they get more experience, that will promote the use of a system. Is the world of markup languages like that? What do you think? Cheers, Tom P
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