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My two cents is: - RELAX NG has achieved depressingly little success so far in terms of market adoption. - However, it would be premature to throw in the towel. The RELAX NG spec was finalized less than 4 months ago. XML is going to be around for a long time to come and there will be a continuing need for an XML schema language. XSD is not suddenly going to become radically simpler. Even if RELAX NG is only adopted by a small percentage of the XML market, the XML market is big enough that this is still worthwhile. - RELAX NG needs more evangelizing. I think for both Murata-san and myself it would be fair to say that our strengths are in the technical department more than the marketing department. - The key difficulty facing RELAX NG is that the W3C is perceived as owning the XML core standards space; it is very hard for any specification to compete with a W3C Recommendation in this space, especially when that Recommendation has been adopted by the big players including Microsoft. It will be hard for RELAX NG to compete no matter how brilliantly it is evangelized. - I don't think the name's a big deal; I agree calling it pronouncing it "Relaxing" sounds a bit funny; I typically pronounce it "Relax En Gee". I don't think the pronunciation is enshrined in any spec, so this is something that is easy to change. But I don't think changing the name would help: at this point it would just dilute what little name recognition we have. - There needs to be a tool to translate RELAX NG into DTDs and XSD. This would allow people to have the advantage of authoring in an easy to learn and easy to use schema language but still be able to interoperate with the rest of the XSD-using world. At the moment, choosing to use RELAX NG means choosing either (a) not to interoperate with DTD/XSD tools and users or (b) to maintain two schema versions by hand; it's not surprising in these circumstances that people don't choose RELAX NG. Maybe this is wishful thinking, but I think if people could automatically generate decent DTDs and XSD schemas from RELAX NG schemas, then they would be much more likely to consider authoring in RELAX NG. James
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