Re: Negotiate Out The Noise: (Was RE: SV: SV: [xml-de v]XML=
----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Brennan" <Michael_Brennan@A...> > > From: Paul T [mailto:pault12@p...] > > <snip/> > > > This wins with no question, I think. And I think > > the buzzword should be not RDF, but RDDL > > ( not the current version, sorry ;-( ). > > I agree. I'm curious what you would like to see changed in RDDL, though. 1. The process. I'm kinda tired of W3C geniuses silently and suddenly "Leading the Web to its Full Potential...". Too much politics around RDDL. 2. In my oppinion, current RDDL is a scientific stuff that can not be used to solve a 'real problem' (see below) RDDL makes some step into 'right direction', but I don't get many of 'design ideas' behind current RDDL ( yet another declarative XML-ish 'language' ) I guess very few developers have enough time for it. 4. A real problem is "what should I do when my software encounteres the 'unknown tag'". It can be solved on namespaces ( like RDDL does ). However, in my oppinion, it is better to be solved with a single and trivial attribute rddl-hook="URI" or something. 5. The real challenge is on the server side.I even designed some funny mix of DNS and FidoNet to write a 'universal distributed DNS-alike resolvers'. Unfortunately, to implement that stuff it would take, like, at least, two-three weeks. I'm not doing that because: a. Nobody is gonna pay for that. I think that the desire for 'web services' is mostly mythical and there would be many funny things with the first attempts of implementing the 'webservices' in their full glory. ( also, see 'PS' section ) b. Even I can implement it, I'm having a hard time to find some other people, who may be interested in *using* such a distributed 'DNS' ( or RDDL ). Maybe people don't really like distributing their information? I hardly understand how to build an *application* for that 'RDDL'. If there is not a big number of people who need the distributed *applications* *right now* - why bother with that RDDL at all? Just place some human-readable documentation at the end of namespace URL and that would work. ;-) Right? Rgds.Paul PS. As to 'webservices'. I have messy feelings. I have two experiences using the 'webservices'. 1. DTDGenerator Frontend on www.pault.com. I just wrapped Michael Kay's perfect DTDGenerator with perl ( and then python) script - many people use that 'service' it every day. The *only* problem with that 'webservice' was to maintain the website up and running 7/24/365, but because it is on Linux - the uptime of 100 days is normal. No XML involved at all. 2. ( True story ) I have missed a job interview, the first week I installed Windows XP on my home computer. I have bought Windows XP professional pre-installed on a *perfect* Dell CPU, to see how robust is it on 'ideal' hardware. No comments on overall reliability, comparing to Win 98 - that would be irrelevant. Now back to the point. XP was using the 'time webservice' to synchronize the system clock. Because of bugs in XP or maybe bugs on the 'service side' - I would never know - my nice computer was occasionally, but constantly, crushing my system clock in subtile ways ( usually +/- one hour ). After some magic dance (as it always happens, when trying to configure some MS product), I've disabled that 'time syncronization' ) so I now (finally) can trust the time displayed in lower right corner on my desktop. But I *did* missed an important job interview that I've been scheduing for one month and I will never forget this ... experience ... Sometimes, when I read that some hospital is now building on .NET http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/01/16/020116hnozzie.xml?0116wepm - I wanna cry. > Is it time to revisit RDDL? I think that it always be the right time. The problems are still there, they just decided not to touch it. Politics, politics. Rgds.Paul.
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