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1/11/2002 12:55:37 PM, "David Starr" 
<dstarr@s...> wrote:


>
>  Seems analogous to the argument that DBAs who use 
GUI tools don't really
>  understand what they're actually doing.
1/11/2002 12:55:37 PM, "David Starr" 
<dstarr@s...> wrote:

>

>  Seems analogous to the argument that DBAs who use 
GUI tools don't really
>  understand what they're actually doing.

I've lost track of meandering of this thead, so this 
may or may not be a response to my suggestion for 
staying away from the proprietary wizard tools for 
building web services.

I'm not sure which side you're on here, but FWIW the 
argument isn't so much against the GUI tools to make 
life easier for real, overworked people, but against 
specs, or designs, or APIs or whatever that FORCE 
real people to use the GUI because the underlying 
complexity is too ugly to comprehend.  

SOAP hasn't reached that point yet, so I'm 
suggesting that if people do use VisualStudio.NET to 
generate their SOAP/WSDL/etc. code, that they make 
VERY sure that they haven't got [expletive deleted] down the 
lock-in black hole.




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