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One more off-topic example: as I type, I am listening to Dil Cheez Kya Hai from a recording of the soundtrack to Umrao Jann (older movie from India). I haven't a clue what the lyrics mean. I enjoy it. That is meaningful to me. I love the sound of Asha Bhosle and the arrangement although Shahryar's lyrics are only as meaningful as they are "scannable" by my ear. I don't get the micro details, but the macro level of the drama is evident. Then there are those recordings of space noise which are called "music of the planets" for which one might acquire a taste, I suppose. I never have. IMO, the first is purposeful; the second is merely labeled. So to agree with Elliotte thus far, information is there because someone put it there for me to discover. The space music is music only insofar as I accept works such as those derived from Brownian motion and other fractally manipulated noise sources as self-organized. len
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