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I'm probably more concerned with just how good the schema designs from committees are going to be. Even with the relative simple-mindedness of DTDs, it can be difficult to get agreement given the n-dimensional competence problems (tools, technologies, subject domain, mammalStuff). Now we have a very powerful but still largely unpracticed schema language that borders on but is not quite an object-oriented design tool (vs DTDs which were pretty much just documents and structured lists), emerging competing schema languages, and a certain lack of methodology-centric design tools to hide the rules for all of these. Toss in the semantic web hype and this is a witches brew guaranteed to produce "toil and trouble". Put all that in the hands of people who have yet to understand what well-formed means and you see quickly that XML is really in much worse shape than SGML for the end-user. Somewhere near the top of the list of every XML project will be the topic: Limiting the Options: Understanding the End Game followed by Don't Publish Just Because It Parses Len http://www.mp3.com/LenBullard Ekam sat.h, Vipraah bahudhaa vadanti. Daamyata. Datta. Dayadhvam.h -----Original Message----- From: Simon St.Laurent [mailto:simonstl@s...] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 9:36 AM To: Bullard, Claude L (Len) Cc: xml-dev@l... Subject: RE: designers as users etc. On 12 Jun 2001 09:24:21 -0500, Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote: > I'm not sure what the conclusion here is: > > o Only programmers should use systems > o Only users should program systems > > and then how that translates to XML where > > o Any one can write an instance > o Only some programs can process some instances > > What is the point exactly? The point is that bringing users closer to the design process can improve the design on multiple levels. Also, the value of iterative development and maximum flexbility in the course of such design. The claim that "only some programs can process some instances" is true because we've let it be true. On some levels - XML parsing - it's largely false. XML seems to me to be an opportunity to get beyond that painfully narrow (but supposedly easy) vision of information processing. ------------------------------------------------------------------ The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org, an initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ To unsubscribe from this elist send a message with the single word "unsubscribe" in the body to: xml-dev-request@l...
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