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Hi, I was travelling slightly and also trying to get some work done outside xml-dev, so if any delay in responses, please accept my apologies. I recently attended a DB conference, and there were definitely some interesting talks related to XML, and i would like to summarize a few that i could grasp for those who were interested -- the conference i attended was ACM's SIGMOD/PODS, with the WebDB workshop held in conjunction. The most interesting talks I believe were related to what is the best way of storing XML -- in traditional DBs or as tradition information retrieval structures like inverted lists -- i am sorry, but i think there are vociferous claims by both parties, i do not know even the basics, but i would summarize it as it purely depends on whether the application needs heavyweight transactions. And those who are enthusiastic about XML, I think this is fairly true (my own conclusions) -- xml schemas (definitely *not* the one from w3c) will be used as the model in which the users will interact with the system, i think most of the stuff about relational views though will go on in the back ground and will be known to the people who develop the system, will not be visible to the end user. Another very interesting talk was the talk on why RELAX by Makoto Murata, this was an invited talk at WebDB -- it was very interesting, and i am *extremely* grateful to Makoto Murata and James Clark for deciding to come out when mistakes started proliferating in the XML-Schema WG, and have exploded to an uncontrollable manner -- i am sorry if i hurt anyone's feelings. to give an analogy, approaching from closure properties, and doing a bit of philosophisation -- I believe strongly that man from the time he was created has *always* come up with closed systems. Coming up with a technology that does not obey closure properties, I think, has the analogy of humans mating and coming up with a dog as their progeny. And what the XML-Schema WG is trying to do is in stead of making amends, they are trying to cut off the various parts of the dog like the limbs, and finally presenting to the end-user a pound of flesh, and putting up the entire false show that this is the solution. Also, there was a panel discussion, where someone mentioned that xml industry is a 10 billion dollar industry. I sincerely wish the xml-schema WG the very best of luck that they will be able to do this cover-up for less than a billion dollars. I think it will be good if they actually listen at least now to what the real founders of XML have to say -- these are people who have worked on XML way before anyone has even heard of it, and they have worked on almost all problems including document transformations and so on. I think the respect for people is going down, because of some false shows by some people -- they will not sustain for long. also once more, i am sincerely apologetic for hurting the sentiments of anyone. regards - murali.
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