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Hopefully my original email was read as intended-- I thought that the diagram was very good-- I thought it diagramed a complex system which is still growing in complexity. Sure, I understand the diagram. When I said it was confusing, what I actually meant was-- when taking the XML family as a whole-- a new user might be confused. The diagram, at the very least, reduces the confusion by making sense of how the specs fit together. I think this is a pretty defensible position, and a small survey that I conducted supports my hypothesis-- sure it was three people, but there were no dissenting votes <g/>. On the other hand I am pretty glad it doesn't begin to approach the 2898 Internet RFCs. I am eager to see the animated version... Thanks, Jeff Rafter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Graham" <igraham@i...> To: "Jeff Rafter" <jeffrafter@e...> Cc: "Ian Graham" <ian.graham@u...>; <xml-dev@l...> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 7:37 PM Subject: Re: XML spec dependencies chart -- > > On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Jeff Rafter wrote: > > > Ian, > > > > This is a very interesting diagram-- in a quick glance it seems to support > > all of the things members of this list have been saying for a while now-- it > > is very confusing (though it is a helpful diagram). I wonder how much more > > confusing the diagram would get if the Infoset were added in-- along with > > which specs rely on which infoset contributions. Also when the second > > version of some of the specs finally mature-- it may become even more > > intricate-- for example fitting in data types from schemas into XPath? > > Schemas rely on XPath rely on Schemas... a circular set of arrows? > > Well, as others have noted, there are no circularities. Clearly the > dependencies increase as you go to deeper layers -- but then the problems > being tackled are bigger, so more complexity is to be expected. > > And, when compared to the 2898 Internet RFCs ... the diagram must seem > quite simple! > > Ian > > > Regards, > > Jeff Rafter > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ian Graham" <igraham@i...> > > To: "xml-dev" <xml-dev@l...> > > Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 12:12 PM > > Subject: XML spec dependencies chart -- > > > > > > > As part of a lecture, I prepared a slide showing the dependencies of the > > > various W3C XML specs (plus SAX), and I thought this might be of interest > > > to some on this list. A screen capture of the PPT slide is found at: > > > > > > http://www.java.utoronto.ca/~igraham/xml-depend.gif > > > > > > The arrows indicate which specs a given spec depends on (dependencies > > > being accumulative). Orange corresponds to a 'recommendataion', and blue > > > to a working draft or a 'proposed recommendataion'. There are no > > > specification versions .... > > > > > > I hope to eventually turn this into an animated slide ... could have the > > > various spec's pop into appearance according to the historical timelines. > > > I suspect that the growth is at least exponential ..... > > > > > > Ian > > > -- > > > Ian Graham .......................... http://www.utoronto.ca/ian/ > > > i a n d o t g r a h a m a t u t o r o n t o d o t c a > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org, an initiative of OASIS > > > <http://www.oasis-open.org> > > > > > > The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this elist send a message with the single word > > > "unsubscribe" in the body to: xml-dev-request@l... > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org, an initiative of OASIS > > <http://www.oasis-open.org> > > > > The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > > > > To unsubscribe from this elist send a message with the single word > > "unsubscribe" in the body to: xml-dev-request@l... > > > >
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