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Re: And the DTD says, "I'm NOT dead yet!!"

• From: Norman Walsh <ndw@n...>
• To: xml-dev@l...
• Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 09:43:15 -0500

/ Bob Kline <bkline@r...> was heard to say:
[...]
| don't think this is one of them.  The most common uses I have seen for
| entities are:
| 
|   1. to create macros for commonly used content-model groups; and
|   2. to create a kludge for working around the lack of support for
|      namespaces in DTDs.
| 
| The first is handled fairly well by named groups (<xsd:group name=...)
| and the second problem doesn't exist because XML Schema supports
| namespaces.  External entities in DTDs correspond pretty well to the
| <xsd:include ...> element in XML Schema.

The significant feature that seems to be missing, but might be addressed
with <redefine> if it's extended to allow complete redefinition of
model groups and attribute groups (i.e., redefinition without reference
to the original), is the ability to change the groups in derived schemas.

Suppose I have the following PE in my DTD:

  <!ENTITY % article.content "para|note|warning">

I can easily construct a derived DTD that does not allow warnings:

  <!ENTITY % original.dtd SYSTEM "...">
  <!ENTITY % article.content "para|note">
  %original.dtd;

It's not clear that I can do this with XML Schemas, and I do this *a lot*.

                                        Be seeing you,
                                          norm

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