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Re: (Second) Last Call for XPointer 1.0

• From: Daniel Veillard <Daniel.Veillard@i...>
• To: Eric van der Vlist <vdv@d...>, connolly@w...
• Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 19:22:51 +0100

On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 06:54:19PM +0100, Eric van der Vlist wrote:
> This is leaving me with the feeling that by the simple fact of browsing
> the W3C spec (something I usually do without calling my lawyer) I become
> bounded to Sun's conditions.

  Right that's something I didn't realized when I read it.

> Chapter 3 is a potential issue for commercial developers:
> 
> "   3.  You agree to provide documentation of any Modification to W3C no
> later than the first date on which such Modification is made available
> to others, including but not limited to the first date on which such
> Modification is made available to others through alpha distributions or
> distributions under obligations of confidentiality (the Available
> Date)." 
> 
> Does that mean that software vendors will have to provide documentation
> of their products implementing XPointer to W3C before they go alpha ?
> 
> If the W3C finds it useful, they should ask it for the other
> specifications as well: why does they need Sun to ask it ?

W3C limited itself to asking Sun to made its term public. There
was some limited discussions though.
I realize a posteriori that the Status section in the XPointer spec
may sound like W3C endorsed Sun statement.
Maybe someone from W3C can provide a public statement. I don't think
this was the intend.

> And chapter 5 looks like a joke:
> 
> "   5.  In no event shall Sun or You be obligated to extend the covenant
> not to sue granted here under to any product not incorporating a fully
> compliant implementation of the XPointer Specification, or to that
> portion of a product not incorporating a fully compliant implementation
> of the XPointer Specification regardless of whether a fully compliant
> implementation of the XPointer Specification was incorporated in another
> portion of that product."
> 
> Does it mean that if I (or Microsoft) develop an implementation that is
> not 100% compliant then Sun can sue us ?
> 
> Looks like a very nice way to motivate software developers to be
> compliant !
> 
> Does the W3C plan to expend this to other recommendations ?

Again those terms are Sun's statement on this patent. This was probably
designed by Sun's layers with this intention, I can't speak for them either.

Daniel

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  • Re: (Second) Last Call for XPointer 1.0
    • From: Daniel Veillard <Daniel.Veillard@i...>
  • Re: (Second) Last Call for XPointer 1.0
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