Re: XML-RPC or SOAP
I agree with Dave - first of all, I do think the project size could do affects about the decision you ganna make - e.g. developeing COM object in VB or VC++ for a guy who's efficient on both means the same ease thing, but in the real world maybe u need to make up you mind and maybe the business you are working with prefer one than another besides the performance issues - and back to SOAP and XML-RPC, my little point of view is that SOAP is trying to simplify the XML world and come up a more light weight protocol, and surely it'll take some time to finalize everything. About the interoperability, SOAP is compatible with simplified XML types, and still support XML, so I can not see anything wrong about SOAP interoperability with XML and anything else, by saying Rope - are u talking about the Proxy Engine or the real one ? Even the Proxy Engine, you have your own option - not using MS COM based ROPE and build up your own - JAVA/CORBA based, or whatever u like to, and back to the staring point of SOAP - it's designed to simplify cross Platform Object Reference and Invokes, make the data exchange world simple and clean, correct me if I am wrong - again, I think SOAP is just a messaging protocol, use it or not and how to use it depends on us, right ?? Mark "Make Your Life More Enjoyable" ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Winer <dave@u...> To: Simon St.Laurent <simonstl@s...>; <xml-dev@x...> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 12:52 PM Subject: Re: XML-RPC or SOAP > What does the size of a project have to do with it? > > How do you measure the size of a project? > > Further, the complexities (or lack of) in any protocol are completely hidden > behind APIs. I do SOAP and XML-RPC with equal ease. The only issue is what > they interoperate with. (And perhaps performance, but I doubt if there's any > difference between the two encodings.) > > Dave > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simon St.Laurent" <simonstl@s...> > To: <xml-dev@x...> > Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 9:22 AM > Subject: Re: XML-RPC or SOAP > > > > At 09:03 AM 8/4/00 -0700, Dave Winer wrote: > > >XML-RPC is alive and well. > > > > > >SOAP is coming along, but there aren't many interoperable > implementations, > > >and none of them implement all the possibilities. So interoperability is > > >still a challenge in SOAP-space, where it's trivial in XML-RPC, and done, > > >and demonstrated. > > > > > >So my advice is this, if XML-RPC does what you need to do, use it. > > > > For once, I'll agree with Dave 100%. > > > > SOAP may be more 'advanced', but XML-RPC is very convenient and easy to > > learn. For small projects, and maybe even for some relatively simple big > > projects, XML-RPC makes a lot of sense. > > > > (I like to say that XML-RPC gives you enough rope to hang yourself, but > > SOAP gives you enough rope to hang yourself and a lot of other people too. > > Rope is, of course, useful for other things as well!) > > > > Simon St.Laurent > > XML Elements of Style / XML: A Primer, 2nd Ed. > > http://www.simonstl.com - XML essays and books > >
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