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True. Unless they ask for that view which sometimes is useful when debugging. Weirdly, I've found that after awhile, some want to see the markup and some begin to work in it exclusively. Consider how some editors have to make assumptions about directories, stuff a lot of indirection in, and then if you need to clone code or chase it, it is painful. So, a room with a view is my choice. But you are right, hide the garbage collection. :-) Len Bullard Intergraph Public Safety clbullar@i... http://fly.hiwaay.net/~cbullard/lensongs.ram Ekam sat.h, Vipraah bahudhaa vadanti. Daamyata. Datta. Dayadhvam.h -----Original Message----- From: Dave Winer [mailto:dave@u...] Imho, the simplest XML tools will not appear to be XML tools at all. No reason the user should see the XML unless they want to, it's like asking a writer to look at the bits that make up a word processing document. They don't care, rightly so. Dave
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