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Re: SML Status Report

• From: Lisa Rein <lisarein@f...>
• To: Sean McGrath <digitome@i...>
• Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 09:31:20 -0800

No you're right.  i'm sorry.

please excuse my whiny, somewhat flippant behavior everyone.

grip attained :-)

lisa

Sean McGrath wrote:
> 
> [Lisa Rein]
> >if anyone else responds to this email, and, if it, in fact does lead to
> >a thread on the xml-dev list about SML, I can't be held responsible for
> >my actions...:-)
> >
> >lisa
> >
> >(hint: those who care about sml can go check on the sml-dev list, any
> >time they want right? -- just checking, thanks.)
> >
> 
> Oh, you can be held responsible for your actions ok! You
> are laying flame bait with this rude, condescending,
> dismissive e-mail. You think you can just walk away from
> it giggling? Get a grip Lisa!
> 
> Don? thanks for the summary. Lisa? Please send
> any consequential inflammable material directly
> to me rather than to the list.
> 
> regards,
> Sean McGrath
> 
> >Don Park wrote:
> >>
> >> Quite a few people have been asking me about the status
> >> of SML.  This is a status report on the SML effort and
> >> the group behind it, the SML-DEV.
> >>
> >> So far, we achieved tentative concensus on following
> >> issues:
> >>
> >>   SML is a strict subset of XML
> >>   SML supports:
> >>     UTF-8 and UTF-16 only.
> >>     empty elements.
> >>     numeric character entities.
> >>     predefined character entities.
> >>   SML does not support:
> >>     DTD
> >>     CDATA sections
> >>     XML and text declarations
> >>     Processing Instructions
> >>     Comments
> >>     Entities (except character entities)
> >>   SML attribute names must not conflict with
> >>     child element names.
> >>
> >> We are currently trying to formulate an information
> >> model for SML before moving forward to tackle tougher
> >> issues such as attribute, mixed content, and namespace
> >> support.  I think SML represents an unique opportunity
> >> to do things right in the right order.  In contrast,
> >> XML information model is still being worked on, two
> >> years after XML syntax.
> >>
> >> There have been some wildly innovative ideas that came
> >> up in SML information model threads: attributed grammars,
> >> colored nodes, rhythmic encoding, unisyntax data model,
> >> and even some Grove model variations.  Beauty of some of
> >> these ideas can be appreciated immediately.  For example,
> >> following is a rather concise notation for our version of
> >> the Groves model:
> >>
> >>   node := character | map(string,list(node))
> >>
> >> other versions that followed removes the distinction
> >> between a character and a map, and then adds context:
> >>
> >>   node = map(string, list(node))
> >>   node = tuple(parent, map(string, list(node)))
> >>
> >> Some ideas were less apparent but fantastic nonetheless.
> >> For example, the 'colored node' proposal starts with SML
> >> having just black and white  nodes (name and value),
> >> then treats CSML (Colored-SML), CXML (Common-XML), XML,
> >> XHTML, and arbitrary markup languages as SML with nodes
> >> colored differently (i.e. attribute, PI, comment, etc.).
> >> 'colors' differ from 'types' in that the colors are
> >> not 'in' the model but provided by other means such
> >> as parsers or 'painters'.  Leigh Dodds prepared an example
> >> titled "SML Color Book" which shows how the 'painting' is
> >> done.
> >>
> >>   http://www.bath.ac.uk/~ccslrd/sml/coloringbook2.html
> >>
> >> While these ideas might seem a bit 'off-the-ground' to you,
> >> most members of SML-DEV are as practical as they come, and
> >> plan to use SML and related technologies to build commercial
> >> products.  E-commerce, B2B or B2C data exchange in particular,
> >> seems to be the most common application SML-DEV members are
> >> interested in using SML in.  Just as the design of XML was
> >> influenced by the primary interests of its inventors,
> >> publishing documents on the web, SML's design will likely be
> >> heavily influenced by our interests in e-commerce and data
> >> exchange.  After all, SML will be our child.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Don Park    -   mailto:donpark@d...
> >> Docuverse   -   http://www.docuverse.com
> >>
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