Re: Feeler for SML (Simple Markup Language)
Don: I think it is an interesting idea but not good for the XML community as a whole. XML is already very fragmented and confusing to the 'newbie'. If you ask 10 people who have heard about XML but are not ingrained in the XML specification - "What is XML?", I guarantee you will get at least 8 different answers. By adding another subset and 'ML' into the mix we will add considerable confusion. Individuals can now scale XML down for their own purposes. You can do the same scaling with any other computer technology, JAVA, Perl, etc. Use what you need. I have reading the threads from the last few days with interest though. It took me a few moments this morning to realize Rick's message this morning on XML 2.0(alpha) was a joke. In all fairness it was before my morning coffee but I did almost have a slight coronary |-). Just a couple of comments on recent posts on external parsed entities and Unique ID's: Eliot - I never knew you thought parsed entities were 'evil'. I knew you didn't particularly like them but the 'Darth Vader of XML' |-). I also agree with you that the 'valueref' of HyTime would be extremely useful - but XLink should do the job. Like, Ken, I have found external entities to be really useful in creating reusable components. However, IDs and parsed external entities have a tendency to be problematic - even in a controlled environment. They will be even more problematic when we really start creating 'global' documents, i.e., virtual catalogs. Betty /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Betty Harvey | Phone: 301-540-8251 FAX: 4268 Electronic Commerce Connection, Inc. | 13017 Wisteria Drive, P.O. Box 333 | Germantown, Md. 20874 | harvey@e... | Washington,DC SGML/XML Users Grp URL: http://www.eccnet.com | http://www.eccnet.com/sgmlug/ /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\\/\/ On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, Don Park wrote: > Everyone, > > I have been thinking that there are applications out there that > can benefit from using XML yet donot need all of its features. > The Canonical XML spec goes quite a distance in cutting away > some of the features, for different purpose, but I still feel > that more can be cut away. Rick Jelliffe's rather funny > message along with some WebDAV papers I read over the weekend > got my mind buzzing enough for me to share this idea with the > rest of XML-DEV. > > What I have in mind is a subset of XML, I'll call it Simple > (or Stupid) Markup Language (SML) for now, that simplifies XML > down to the bare essentials. Ideally, it should also be a > subset of Canonical XML. Here are some ideas: > > o No Attributes (ouch!) > o No PI, Comments, Notations, or CDATA sections > o No document type declaration > o UTF-8 encoding only > o No non-character entity references > o No predefined character entities (I am iffy on this one) > > What do you guys think? Please do not get caught up with > the list I presented above because they are just ideas and > subject to change later depending on your capacity to scream > convincingly. The key point to consider is whether there is > a broad enough need for such a subset of XML. > > Best, > > Don Park - mailto:donpark@d... > Docuverse - http://www.docuverse.com > > xml-dev: A list for W3C XML Developers. To post, mailto:xml-dev@i... > Archived as: http://www.lists.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/xml-dev/ and on CD-ROM/ISBN 981-02-3594-1 > To unsubscribe, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; > unsubscribe xml-dev > To subscribe to the digests, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; > subscribe xml-dev-digest > List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (mailto:rzepa@i...) > xml-dev: A list for W3C XML Developers. To post, mailto:xml-dev@i... Archived as: http://www.lists.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/xml-dev/ and on CD-ROM/ISBN 981-02-3594-1 To unsubscribe, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; unsubscribe xml-dev To subscribe to the digests, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; subscribe xml-dev-digest List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (mailto:rzepa@i...)
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